Really cool couple of days with a ROUTINE based player

This kind of blew my paradigm because I am so used to routine-based game being blown up as this weird alternate universe that we avoid and sneer at. This guy is already a cool guy, I could see him having success without routines, but he's emphatic about their importance because they basicaly allow you to convert sets that you would otherwise lose into closes. You "get the girl" basically, and from an RSD self-development perspective that may seem kind of weird but you gota remember this is cold approach pick-up, not a Tony Robbins seminar. Don't agree with everything, but I found it an interesting view point.

What I found the most interesting is how we think there is a clear divide between routine-based game and natural game, where routine-based game is seen as depending exclusively on outer game and RSD game is seen as depending on a cultivation of inner game. Routine based game does not work if you the inner-game subcomms aren't there, so you need inner-game confidence in your routines too. If you are a complete dark creep with no inner-game, it will be difficult to work your routines. The difference I see is that RSD natural game depends on an inner-game baseline that is independent of female reactions and validation, this allows you to thinks sharply on the spot and pass shit tests without having a precanned respone that makes you confident you won't lose the girl. I've heard Tyler and Jeffy mention this before. According to the dude I was winging with, if your routines aren't self-amusing it is difficult to make them work too...if you don;t have the frame of outcome independence and self-amusement they usually fall flat anyways.

The distinction gets more blurry when you consider that alot of natural players, PUA and non-PUA naturals, use precanned techniques like crazy. Openers, LMR techniques, text game, mixed set techniques, etc...consider Tyler's "who are you?" or Julien's "adventure!". Raw naturals still use stuff they know has worked in the past all the time too. It's not like they resist using material retrieved from memory just so they know that they pulled the girl off stuff they've never used before.

I'd love to hear what you guys think about this distinction. I probably don't see myself using routines, but I would be open to trying them and I certainly don't wanna avoid them because I've been conditioned by RSD culture to believe they're some evil, creepy cousin of natural game.