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So I'm sure that one is never really "done" with the delightful PPON. However I've been over it many times now and was wondering what's a good next step? The Power of Now (unabridged), Realizing the Power of Now, A New Earth, some other kind of guided meditation, yoga, breathing, all of the above. What do you guys think

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Take a look at the Presence

Take a look at the Presence Process by Michael Brown.  It helped me deal with very deep negative emotions that I buried and tried to ignore.

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Stillness Speaks

Stillness Speaks

also The Open Focus Brain by Les Fehmi has drills that drive on Tolles "Space Consciousness" concept. 

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Yoga.

^Solid, I'll check those out- been looking for some next moves myself

I cannot recommend or rave about yoga enough though man. Logical next step to passive forms of meditation is meditation in movement. "The body is the mind" and all that.

I started out using Ashtanga to supplement boxing stiffness, but it's so much more than that to me now dude. The focus and presence you cultivate with meditation is intertwined with the strength you enact through the postures. They call it "the unification of breath, gaze and movement". The balance I feel after a yoga session I've never felt doing anything else.

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Congruent what are these

Congruent what are these drills like? 

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eli wrote: ^Solid, I'll check

eli wrote:
^Solid, I'll check those out- been looking for some next moves myself I cannot recommend or rave about yoga enough though man. Logical next step to passive forms of meditation is meditation in movement. "The body is the mind" and all that. I started out using Ashtanga to supplement boxing stiffness, but it's so much more than that to me now dude. The focus and presence you cultivate with meditation is intertwined with the strength you enact through the postures. They call it "the unification of breath, gaze and movement". The balance I feel after a yoga session I've never felt doing anything else.

Yoga as moving meditation is awesome.  Have you heard of Forrest Yoga? Its super intense because you hold challenging poses for long periods of time--up to 5mins, and this causes all sorts of things to come up. 

What is boxing like for you since you've been cultivating presence/mindfulness?

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Awesome stuff thx guys.

Awesome stuff thx guys.

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Manwhore wrote:Congruent

Manwhore wrote:
Congruent what are these drills like? 

They are meditations where he has you imagining different areas of space. 

"Imagine the distance between your nose and your temples.

Imagine the space of the volume of your tongue"  etc.  

each for 15 seconds

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Archangel wrote: eli

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eli wrote:
^Solid, I'll check those out- been looking for some next moves myself I cannot recommend or rave about yoga enough though man. Logical next step to passive forms of meditation is meditation in movement. "The body is the mind" and all that. I started out using Ashtanga to supplement boxing stiffness, but it's so much more than that to me now dude. The focus and presence you cultivate with meditation is intertwined with the strength you enact through the postures. They call it "the unification of breath, gaze and movement". The balance I feel after a yoga session I've never felt doing anything else.

Yoga as moving meditation is awesome.  Have you heard of Forrest Yoga? Its super intense because you hold challenging poses for long periods of time--up to 5mins, and this causes all sorts of things to come up. 

What is boxing like for you since you've been cultivating presence/mindfulness?

Hahah, fuck dude- that sounds very intense. Bodily and mentally taxing.

Never heard of it, but going by the intensity of my regular sessions- where a pose is rarely held for more than 15 breaths (let's call it 30 seconds - 1 minute, 3-4 minutes or more with shoulder stands and the like)- Forrest Yoga looks insane. Thanks for plugging it, i'm intrigued- but I'll probably stick to Ashtanga for another 6 months before I work in anything else. I want to refine before I dabble. You ever tried it though?

Man, the first thing I noticed in my boxing after yoga past the 3-4month mark was that I felt far more aware of my own body as opposed to having my opponent/partner as my focus. It's easy to inadvertently tighten up and tense the muscles in the shoulders and upper back when you're not conscious of it. Key to fast hands is relaxation and technique right- so I adapted into a far more snappy method of throwing shots after building in that awareness. The second was breath control, pretty straight forward, I kept pace better because I was conscious of my breathing.

In terms of mindfulness as a whole though- I'm all around just a lot less distracted. I know that when I start boxing, 100% of my focus in both mind and body is IN the boxing. Far less thought involved, except when I'm correcting technique, or being corrected.