Voice/How you say stuff
Sun, 05/05/2013 - 22:33
So since I got in the game since last year there have been instances when let's say I say something..the girl gets pissed off..or might look away or down. Now sometimes its surprising because even for normal stuff...she might do this. So I asked one of the girls why she did that and she said..well you came across as an asshole.
Before I asked her why she acted pissed off, I was constantly thinking and rationalizing that my VOICE pissed her off. But, after I asked her, I figured that my words triggered that emotional response.
So I want to know that is it really voice triggering that emotional response or is it words? And even if it's the voice, then people (and their RAS) will always find reasons to blame it on your words right? cuz they don't know that voice/how you say works underneath..so they will think they got pissed off because of what you said..? I even noticed that when I talk to fellow guys and I can see in their eyes..the emotions gets triggered and they talk in breaking rapport to me or as if i just dissed them...
This is one of my main sticking points where when I am talking I am not able to put full focus on conversation and instead worrying about if she likes my voice or not and does not get pissed off at the voice...So Please your suggestions would really help me move past this block..
Before I asked her why she acted pissed off, I was constantly thinking and rationalizing that my VOICE pissed her off. But, after I asked her, I figured that my words triggered that emotional response.
So I want to know that is it really voice triggering that emotional response or is it words? And even if it's the voice, then people (and their RAS) will always find reasons to blame it on your words right? cuz they don't know that voice/how you say works underneath..so they will think they got pissed off because of what you said..? I even noticed that when I talk to fellow guys and I can see in their eyes..the emotions gets triggered and they talk in breaking rapport to me or as if i just dissed them...
This is one of my main sticking points where when I am talking I am not able to put full focus on conversation and instead worrying about if she likes my voice or not and does not get pissed off at the voice...So Please your suggestions would really help me move past this block..
Mon, 05/06/2013 - 01:45
#1
Yes it's a big part of
Yes it's a big part of interactions with girls. I cover this very very thoroughly in my training program if you're interested.
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Mon, 05/06/2013 - 03:11
#2
I always talk at normal to
I always talk at normal to loud tone in either breaking rapport or normal rapport. And, never in soft tone. Even before I got into game, I was loud. So can you tell me whats going on..is it the words triggering pain body in people or the voice? consciously they think it's words or voice?
Mon, 05/06/2013 - 07:10
#3
There's a lot more to it than
There's a lot more to it than that man. Sometimes those aren't the right tools for the job, sometimes I speak very soft, I even coo when I need to. Depends on the situation you're in and how that's effecting the people you're dealing with. Too many people get caught up in the "alpha" breaking/neutral rapport tonality that they lose sight of what's really going on at crucial times and they miscommunicate. Shit blows up ;)
I'm going to get Buddhagames to post up one of his sales calls on here and you'll get a good idea of what I mean.
I'm going to get Buddhagames to post up one of his sales calls on here and you'll get a good idea of what I mean.
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I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
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- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Tue, 05/07/2013 - 03:02
#4
You need to modulate your
You need to modulate your voice to the situation.
There's times you need to be commanding, but there's also times when it's inappropriate.
If someone spoke to me with a condescendent tone all the time, I'd eradicate ties from a sense of being disrespected.
You might be coming across incongruent. Adopting high status behaviors takes time to smoothen out and naturalize.
There's times you need to be commanding, but there's also times when it's inappropriate.
If someone spoke to me with a condescendent tone all the time, I'd eradicate ties from a sense of being disrespected.
You might be coming across incongruent. Adopting high status behaviors takes time to smoothen out and naturalize.
Tue, 05/07/2013 - 20:53
#5
Alright this will be keeping
Alright this will be keeping it one hundred. Its not your voice, its not your choice of words. Tonality, and word choice are only a couple a variables. The REAL problem is you lack the ability to read how people are reacting to you in real time, and more importantly why. This is all contextual. Since you can't read the situation or understand where the person is coming from you don't know how to switch gears and tackle the interaction. If youre a one trick pony your game is bound to be clumpy and you will be pissing people off, weird, creepy, a guy who socially doesnt ' get it '. , etc.