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I have GOT to get this off my chest before I explode.

I've been with the same girl for 16 years. She's open and absolutely not jealous, so we started having fun with other women YEARS ago.

I was always the one who spent countless hours finding and seducing those girls. Then when we'd fuck, most of the time I was either present but not invited (for real) or after taking care of them for hours and making them come multiple times, no one would take care of me.

My girl told me over a 100 times and many different ways that I had the right to see other women.

When I'd make her come too hard, she'd often say, ''I'm too knocked-ou to make you come. Go get some backup. Call Emily. She'll take care of you. Or Shannon.'' (Those were girls who wanted a piece of me.)

She'd also say in all seriousness, ''I don't mind if you have sex with other girls, because I know you'll come back home to me.'' Or ''I don't care if you fuck other women, but I wouldn't be comfortable with you having another girlfriend.'' Or, ''I can't wait to catch you fucking other women when I come home.''

Then one time she told me twice - while we were fucking and fantasizing - ''I want you to have pleasure with other women. You can do EVERYTHING with them except come, and you can't penetrate them. That's for me ok?''

So I thought, she's conscious that I don't always get my cookie so to speak. That I missed out.

So months later - I wasn't in a hurry -  I met up with a girl and we did something that was well within the rules. Oral. No orgasm. No penetration.

I told my GF the next day and things seemed MORE than ok. She was cheerful all day long. We had a wonderful time.

That night we made love and then I got up to go back out for a walk. Met the same girl. Did the same thing.

Told her again the next morning and then I got a different reaction. She cried and told me that she wasn't happy with what I had done, that I misunderstood her rules. ''What I meant was, you can kiss her (which she knows I don't like doing) and caress her over her clothes. That's it!''

That's pleasure?

So you can do EVERYTHING except orgasm and penetrate her really meant only two things, one of which I dislike: kissing and caressing. Bullshit!

Then she dropped a bombshell, ''I wanted to see if you'd do it.''

I was fucking stunned and spoke up immediately. ''Of course I was gonna do it! You knew that!''

She replied, I never doubted that you'd do it!!

I said, you told me I could do what I did MANY times. She replied, ''Yes, but not with a girl like her.'' Wow.

So there you go. She hogs the girls I work hard to bring home and makes the most of them and doesn't always share with me, and then gives me the impression I can have fun on the side to compensate for this fact... but no.

It was a F'ing trap! Incredible.

She contradicted herself numerous times. All the times she said I could? Those weren't serious conversations. And she forgot she even gave me the right. Years of telling me to fuck other girls. I said that? Me? Nah. My reptilian brain was active. Not my fault. She also said, ''I was teasing you.''

She also claimed that she never said, ''I wanted to see if you'd do it.'' You really think I'd do that to you?

She swore that she wasn't testing me. Riiiiiiiiiight....

In a nutshell, this girl is awesome. But she has a history of lying to me and I just can't live with what happened. I don't accept it. She went overboard and I went past the point of no return. I don't really trust or respect her anymore, and doubt most of what she says.

She gave me a shorter leash and a new list of things I can do, but never told me that it was a serious conversation. I had to ask her twice, ''is this serious or not?'' She stayed silent and stared at me with an angry look. Next morning I asked again, and she erupted. ''Of course it was a serious conversation!''

Well hot damn! A lot of the other convos seemed VERY serious too.

She wants new girls and more threesomes. And she wants me to go get 'em for her. Next time we'll take care of you, she said. HAHAHAHA!

And you know what? I don't feel like it ANYMORE. At all. I don't look at other women now. Couldn't care less for them. This incident turned me off like you wouldn't believe. I rarely feel like fucking her anymore. I have to drink to do it.

What are your thougts? What would you do? It was a test, huh?

Thanks for reading! It felt good to get this out.

Have an awesome day!

-SG

P.S. She said she didn't want me to ask for advice online. To ask her instead. Why would I ask a girl for the truth when she contradicts herself all the time and who wrote in her diary, ''I lie to him constantly''?

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I suspect your boundaries

I suspect your boundaries were being encroached far earlier than just the bedroom, and the bedroom is just an extension of this encroachment.

You gotta stand up for yourself mangs. Not halfheartedly like you did either where you’re still seeking permission. These are major offenses IMO. 

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Is this a troll?

Is this a troll? If it is not.... let me say welcome, and you are in the right place broski. 

But holy shit man this girl is just running all over you like the boston marathon. YOU go out and pick up these sexy little ladies and pull them home... and then she just kicks you out the room and bangs them? Or even worse makes you get the two of them off and then tells you she is too tired for your enjoyment? You have to learn to be the leader and make the situation happen, you cant just sit there and hope she gives you a sympathy tug bro. Boundaries need to be set, you have to get comfortable pushing back, and for for fucks sake please dont ever listen to that last “ps” line of “she didnt want me to look online, she wanted me to ask her instead”. No way man....

Seriously though, please read through these forums, read the articles, ask questions, listen to the feedback. If you are being serious, you are in the right place bro, and this can all be fixed 

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Slick88 wrote: Is this a

Slick88 wrote:
Is this a troll? If it is not.... let me say welcome, and you are in the right place broski. 

But holy shit man this girl is just running all over you like the boston marathon. YOU go out and pick up these sexy little ladies and pull them home... and then she just kicks you out the room and bangs them? Or even worse makes you get the two of them off and then tells you she is too tired for your enjoyment? You have to learn to be the leader and make the situation happen, you cant just sit there and hope she gives you a sympathy tug bro. Boundaries need to be set, you have to get comfortable pushing back, and for for fucks sake please dont ever listen to that last “ps” line of “she didnt want me to look online, she wanted me to ask her instead”. No way man....

Nah, I'm not a troll. Thanks for your reply Slick.


Slick88 wrote:
YOU go out and pick up these sexy little ladies and pull them home... and then she just kicks you out the room and bangs them?**

No, I was in the bed or tent with them. Sometimes MY turn was after she'd fuck a girl silly, and the girl was falling asleep and couldn't keep her eyes open. Funny huh?

Slick88 wrote:
and for for fucks sake please dont ever listen to that last “ps” line of “she didnt want me to look online, she wanted me to ask her instead”. No way man....

Haha! No way, that's why I'm here.

I've learned that most women who want a threesome are more interested in the woman than the man. The girl is the new shiny object. Any attractive woman can get laid by a man easily. So... put two women together and they'll want to play and experiement with each other.

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Shellgame you in your 40's?

Shellgame you in your 40's?

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Shellgame also, how’d you

Shellgame also, how’d you hear about game and this site if you’ve been with this chick for 16yrs? This is the right place though :)

Btw, quick advice, you can’t be taking word for word what a woman says to ever be true. Its all emotional fairy dust they throw around. I think you’re starting to realize that. Doesn’t mean they’re bad people, they’re just women. Its part of the game :)

This girl literally has you on a leash like a dog. You even used the wording yourself. Like the guys above said, it should be the other way around. You need to lead and make the choices and she needs to be actively trying to please you.

Her saying you can enjoy other women is like a dog treat while she reaps and enjoys the benefits of fucking the women while you sit on the sidelines and really can’t enjoy other women like you should be able to. Its like reverse cucking almost. 

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@Manwhore  I'm in my later

@Manwhore  I'm in my later 30's.

**Shellgame also, how’d you hear about game and this site if you’ve been with this chick for 16yrs?**

Google. And I got into seduction after dumping this girl after she cheated on me twice a LONG time ago. We got back together eventually and I used game to make our relationship better.

**you can’t be taking word for word what a woman says to ever be true.**

Yeah. She contradicted herself, used half-assed arguments and moved the goal posts so many times...

She has her limits and I have to respect them because she has to respect mine. It's a tradeoff. She can't fuck other men. Women yes. And she has, without me.

**Her saying you can enjoy other women is like a dog treat while she reaps and enjoys the benefits of fucking the women while you sit on the sidelines and really can’t enjoy other women like you should be able to.**

It'd be easier if we could just both enjoy other women without limitations. She's not jealous or insecure in the least. That's the interesting part. And yet I can't do much...

Thanks for your input guys! I feel better.

SG

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Also dude, and this is a big

Also dude, and this is a big one.. why are you working so hard to make these women come when apparently there's no reciprocation? I've definitely witnessed certain weird emotional dysfunctions in more middle-aged couples, long-term couples before, but this is definitely a bit more twisted than typical haha

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