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In this particular circumstance, should I go for a kiss right away or wait?

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Hi, so this is the thing.
I hanged out with a girl a while ago. She leaned in for a goodbye kiss, and I didn't kiss her. We've been in touch and I think she still likes me. We are going out tomorrow so ...

Should I kiss her as soon as I meet her or should I wait until we say goodbye?
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You refused to kiss her? Why
You refused to kiss her? Why mang? That's your bigger problem.

When you see her next I would give her a quick kiss on her face somewhere and a hug, not for too long, and then do whatever it is you were going to go do with her. Physical stuff like this should be mixed in throughout and not have too much emphasis placed on it ever. Just do it casually and actually have fun with it. Thumbwar, light headlocks with noogies.. stuff like this really turns a girl on and it's fun for both of you. 
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I did not refuse to kiss her
I did not refuse to kiss her. I didn't get the message. I'd have done it if I knew. I like her and I think she likes me too.
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I did not refuse to kiss her.
I did not refuse to kiss her. I didn't get the message. I'd have done it if I knew. I like her and I think she likes me too.
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Feel bad now
We went out. We had some physical contact. She actually started the hi 5's. Finally, when saying good bye, there was no kiss. I didn't know if I had to wait for a sign, so I didn't do it.

I don't know what to do. I feel like I'm losing her. I wanted to kiss her (or maybe not, I just didn't go for it)
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om_bucker wrote:We went out.
om_bucker wrote:
We went out. We had some physical contact. She actually started the hi 5's. Finally, when saying good bye, there was no kiss. I didn't know if I had to wait for a sign, so I didn't do it.

I don't know what to do. I feel like I'm losing her. I wanted to kiss her (or maybe not, I just didn't go for it)


Woah chill out big guy! Too start be honest with yourself, you wanted to kiss her. Second, you don't have to wait for anything, initiate the kiss yourself! If she denies, fuck it and try again later. Do what MW said, just get the damn kiss outta the way quick next time you see her and everything will be smooth sailing my friend.
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Meow wrote:Woah chill out big
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Woah chill out big guy! Too start be honest with yourself, you wanted to kiss her. Second, you don't have to wait for anything, initiate the kiss yourself! If she denies, fuck it and try again later. Do what MW said, just get the damn kiss outta the way quick next time you see her and everything will be smooth sailing my friend.


Yes that's right. I wanted to kiss her. What do you mean by "get the damn kiss outta the way"?
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My point is that it may seem
My point is that it may seem like not kissing her was a big deal right now, but it really is not. Next time you see this chick, be physical and fun. Don't worry about looking for signs or anything, just kiss the girl, she obviously is down for it. I suggest you do some tickle fights or thumb wars if your trying to break the touching barrier :)

You said things were a bit more physical the second date, just keep the momentum up!
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Phew, I breath more air
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My point is that it may seem like not kissing her was a big deal right now, but it really is not. Next time you see this chick, be physical and fun. Don't worry about looking for signs or anything, just kiss the girl, she obviously is down for it. I suggest you do some tickle fights or thumb wars if your trying to break the touching barrier :)

You said things were a bit more physical the second date, just keep the momentum up!


Sh!t. Thanks. Feeling better. Any ideas on how to start casually with thumbwrestling or any physical thing?
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Check my youtube channel I've
Check my youtube channel I've got a video called "physical escalation tips" or something like that that explains it pretty thoroughly. 
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om_bucker wrote:Meow wrote:My
om_bucker wrote:
Meow wrote:
My point is that it may seem like not kissing her was a big deal right now, but it really is not. Next time you see this chick, be physical and fun. Don't worry about looking for signs or anything, just kiss the girl, she obviously is down for it. I suggest you do some tickle fights or thumb wars if your trying to break the touching barrier :)

You said things were a bit more physical the second date, just keep the momentum up!


Sh!t. Thanks. Feeling better. Any ideas on how to start casually with thumbwrestling or any physical thing?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjzO2DK8sr4   <<< the link to MW's vid :) 

The great part about a thumb war is that its casual and doesn't put pressure on the chick...just reach out and grab her hands, look her in the eyes, and say " Thumbwar!" and start dat shit up! There are a million different things to do, personally I really like the tickle wars hahaha it usually becomes more like a groping war!
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To be honest it doesn't seem
To be honest it doesn't seem like you're in the right frame of mind here.

Why are we discussing how to kiss the girl, when the emphasis should be on fucking her.

Look for ways to fuck her. Ever heard of RAS? Think of ways in which you could turn her on so badly that she would rape you right then and there. Stop caring about a shitty little kiss that both of you will forget by next week, instead start rubbing your cock against her thigh and when she tries to swoop in for a kiss pull back on your OWN terms and be like

"bitch please. that's tacky"
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Gogo wrote:To be honest it
Gogo wrote:
To be honest it doesn't seem like you're in the right frame of mind here.

Why are we discussing how to kiss the girl, when the emphasis should be on fucking her.

Look for ways to fuck her. Ever heard of RAS? Think of ways in which you could turn her on so badly that she would rape you right then and there. Stop caring about a shitty little kiss that both of you will forget by next week, instead start rubbing your cock against her thigh and when she tries to swoop in for a kiss pull back on your OWN terms and be like

"bitch please. that's tacky"


I have 2 reasons why I wouldn't fuck her right away. I hope I can get feedback on them.
I'm shy as fuck, and I guess she knows it since I didn't take the initiative on the second date. I think If I start rubbing my dick on her, she may end up getting a confused impression.
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Haha Gogo.. yeah I could tell
Haha Gogo.. yeah I could tell homey here was a bit on the back foot here with this situation. I'm not trying to force him into something he's not ready for. 
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alright OP. i see your
alright OP. i see your problem.

get manwhore coaching or go out and approach A LOT. learn through trial and error, become indifferent and you'll get away with rubbing your cock against a chick's thigh...and if she questions it you'll just say "he likes you..."
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om_bucker wrote:Gogo wrote:To
om_bucker wrote:
Gogo wrote:
To be honest it doesn't seem like you're in the right frame of mind here.

Why are we discussing how to kiss the girl, when the emphasis should be on fucking her.

Look for ways to fuck her. Ever heard of RAS? Think of ways in which you could turn her on so badly that she would rape you right then and there. Stop caring about a shitty little kiss that both of you will forget by next week, instead start rubbing your cock against her thigh and when she tries to swoop in for a kiss pull back on your OWN terms and be like

"bitch please. that's tacky"


I have 2 reasons why I wouldn't fuck her right away. I hope I can get feedback on them.
I'm shy as fuck, and I guess she knows it since I didn't take the initiative on the second date. I think If I start rubbing my dick on her, she may end up getting a confused impression.



These aren't logistical issues. These are imaginary issue that are only true in your reality. Number one, don't let society teach you that being "shy" is normal. Being "shy" is a dysfunction, a fear based dysfunction, that can only be overcame by getting used to socializing with people. Number two, stop worrying about her thoughts, this interaction is about you..  DO WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT! (hodge twins reference hahaha) 
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Gogo wrote:alright OP. i see
Gogo wrote:
alright OP. i see your problem.

get manwhore coaching or go out and approach A LOT. learn through trial and error, become indifferent and you'll get away with rubbing your cock against a chick's thigh...and if she questions it you'll just say "he likes you..."


XD Sucks that I'm a beginner, but I still have hope.
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These aren't logistical


These aren't logistical issues. These are imaginary issue that are only true in your reality. Number one, don't let society teach you that being "shy" is normal. Being "shy" is a dysfunction, a fear based dysfunction, that can only be overcame by getting used to socializing with people. Number two, stop worrying about her thoughts, this interaction is about you..  DO WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT! (hodge twins reference hahaha) 


"Being shy is a dysfunction".-  Makes me feel better. I'll see it as that for the future.

"Stop worrying about her thoughts, this interaction is about you..  DO WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT!".- I've read that somewhere, somehow it didn't stick with me. Thanks.
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how old are you OP?
how old are you OP?
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Gogo wrote:how old are you
Gogo wrote:
how old are you OP?


26. You must be thinking."Fuck, they still exist??" haha 
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haha fuck i really thought
haha fuck i really thought you was in high school bro

no worries. you're at a good age to be starting this shit - older guys usually have more self awareness, and direction in life. plus you can appeal to both older women and younger. always see the positives :)
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om_bucker wrote:These
om_bucker wrote:


These aren't logistical issues. These are imaginary issue that are only true in your reality. Number one, don't let society teach you that being "shy" is normal. Being "shy" is a dysfunction, a fear based dysfunction, that can only be overcame by getting used to socializing with people. Number two, stop worrying about her thoughts, this interaction is about you..  DO WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT! (hodge twins reference hahaha) 


"Being shy is a dysfunction".-  Makes me feel better. I'll see it as that for the future.

"Stop worrying about her thoughts, this interaction is about you..  DO WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT!".- I've read that somewhere, somehow it didn't stick with me. Thanks.


_*_ I've been thinking about this and realized that I care too much about what others think about me. Specifically on the "Do Whatever the fuck you want" section. I thought I'd creep my girl out if I just show up as a non-shy guy on the next date when she knows I'm shy. I'm like she would think "but he was shy the last time, today he seems another person." Any comments? Sorry if this seems ridiculous.
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Yeah you NEVER have to worry
Yeah you NEVER have to worry about things like that. Ever. You can show up next time and be completely boisterous. Don't worry about that that never goes through a girl's mind. What can happen, and happens a lot, and this shows how things actually work.. is a girl can HATE you the first time she meets you, but you show up the second time, and it could simply be seeing her again out at a bar, and boom things just go differently and she loves you. It happens a lot. Just stay centered on yourself and your experience, stop paying so much attention to her, and things will naturally go smoothly. 
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I feel free!
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Yeah you NEVER have to worry about things like that. Ever. You can show up next time and be completely boisterous. Don't worry about that that never goes through a girl's mind. What can happen, and happens a lot, and this shows how things actually work.. is a girl can HATE you the first time she meets you, but you show up the second time, and it could simply be seeing her again out at a bar, and boom things just go differently and she loves you. It happens a lot. Just stay centered on yourself and your experience, stop paying so much attention to her, and things will naturally go smoothly. 


Whoa! Thanks mang. That was liberating. On to the battle.