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I'm really not sure why this happens, but I think I may have an idea. For whatever reason some of these girls can just be flat out disrespectful. I chatted with a girl on pof and when I asked for her number, she said she didn't have a phone, but she had a bunch of phone mirror pics up. I called her out on it, but she never responded so I purposely got her to block me by telling her to go kill herself. I'm not sure this line is working lol. I think I'm gonna try and be nice for a while.

Another girl saw my beer helmet pic on OKC and started messaging me. I got her number after a few messages then she ended up stopped testing and just didn't even show any interest. THEN she said she wanted to meet me through the pof "hot or not" thing. So I then I started messaging her.

Me: haha what?! I'm the same guy from OKC. You stopped textin me so I figured you weren't interested.
Her: (views my profile)Who
Me: Vince.
Her: Oh hey sorry
Me: You didn't even read my profile. You just looked at the pictures. lol
Her: Lol bio
Me: what are you talking about?
Her: Nothing nvm
Me: (Instead of telling her to go kill herself) That's not nice.

Is it me or are these girls CRAZY?
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Wait what? Neither of these
Wait what? Neither of these were mean. That is bizarre you think that mang.
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Manwhore wrote:Wait what?
Manwhore wrote:
Wait what? Neither of these were mean. That is bizarre you think that mang.


Why would a girl waste my time messaging me then say something like she doesn't have a phone? Or say some random crap and not explain wtf she is talking about?
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Manwhore why do you think
Manwhore why do you think Jeffy tells girls to go kill themselves? I think trying this has backfired on me a lot and people think I'm being reactive as all fuck when I do this.
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Do not tell girls to kill
Do not tell girls to kill themselves. He is purely self-amusing with that crap it's not something anybody else should be using. Find me a post where he says otherwise
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Here's this
Here's this thread:

http://www.rsdnation.com/node/207331

He doesn't really explain his motives behind saying it.
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We have a hardcase
We have a hardcase
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buddhagames wrote:We have a
buddhagames wrote:
We have a hardcase


I used to think it's funny, but now I'm beginning to think that it's just pathetic. I have easily been able to learn how to lift and move weights, but when it comes to women I seem to have a learning disability!
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haha come on man- I was
haha come on man- I was totally messing with you- wasn't tryna make you self conscious but I've been there so I totally get it.

But yeah, you just completely lack empathy. Which is interesting because I am at a point in my game where I'm coming full circle and being like, "Wow I totally lack any empathy" but what you realize is that it's all the same problems just at different levels of depth.

So for you, it seems like it's at a point where there's almost like zero understanding of what the other person is feeling/thinking.

What you're not recognizing is that engaging with people is a constantly evolving process. It's not something static- it's not a contract like, "I said Hello to you so I hereby agree to remain speaking with you for 10 minutes and if in such time, I choose to continue to speak, I hereby agree to suck your dick after 30 minutes"

lol obviously that's just an example that I wrote because it made me laugh but you get the idea.

The girl has the right to come and go as she pleases and you literally cannot control that in any way- even the best pooah's in the world have girls just flat out walk away from them prob like 50% of the time just bc of random, totally illogical shit that is beyond the scope of even the most logistically-minded pooah's control.

Your question of, "Why did she just stop responding and not explain herself" could equally be asked for, "Why did she say hello and not explain herself"

Man- honestly though, I'm not sure if what I just wrote is even going to hit you on the right level. Is this where you're at? Give me an idea of where you're at- lol just write more, you don't even need to tell me- I can pick it up
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buddhagames wrote:haha come
buddhagames wrote:
haha come on man- I was totally messing with you- wasn't tryna make you self conscious but I've been there so I totally get it.

But yeah, you just completely lack empathy. Which is interesting because I am at a point in my game where I'm coming full circle and being like, "Wow I totally lack any empathy" but what you realize is that it's all the same problems just at different levels of depth.

So for you, it seems like it's at a point where there's almost like zero understanding of what the other person is feeling/thinking.

What you're not recognizing is that engaging with people is a constantly evolving process. It's not something static- it's not a contract like, "I said Hello to you so I hereby agree to remain speaking with you for 10 minutes and if in such time, I choose to continue to speak, I hereby agree to suck your dick after 30 minutes"

lol obviously that's just an example that I wrote because it made me laugh but you get the idea.

The girl has the right to come and go as she pleases and you literally cannot control that in any way- even the best pooah's in the world have girls just flat out walk away from them prob like 50% of the time just bc of random, totally illogical shit that is beyond the scope of even the most logistically-minded pooah's control.

Your question of, "Why did she just stop responding and not explain herself" could equally be asked for, "Why did she say hello and not explain herself"

Man- honestly though, I'm not sure if what I just wrote is going to hit you on the right level. Is this where you're at? Give me an idea of where you're at- lol just write more, you don't even need to tell me- I can pick it up


I guess you're right. For the most part, I don't think I have any clue what is going on at all in my interactions with women. Like if a girl or girls are being rude or just walk away, I tend to just shrug it off. But this happens all the time and it's hard for me to take anything away from the experience because I don't see why they would act like that with me. I somehow get the idea that they're just passing up a good thing and it's their own fault.

One time I was out and talked to a couple girls just by saying, "Hey guys, I'm Vince!" One of them ends up telling me that she was gay. I'm like that's cool and kept talking. It turned out that I was actually creeping her out. I guess my not noticing this has to do with my lack of empathy.

That girl in the example just said some random nonsense so I'm like "wtf are you talking about?" She just blew it off so I'm like "that's not nice." For lack of something better to say. I'm really not even sure if I even actually gave a fuck! Nor if I should give a fuck because I don't think I know what to learn from it.
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by lack of empathy you mean
by lack of empathy you mean calibration?
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I dont like the word
I dont like the word calibrate. Sounds robotic. Empathy hits on a deeper level allowing one to not only read/move the interaction in the right direction, but allows one to connect with the girl on a real level that a lot of dudes can't.
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Calibration is one benefit of
Calibration is one benefit of empathy but empathy encompasses a much wider grouping of symptoms and benefits
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These girls DO NOT KNOW YOU.
These girls DO NOT KNOW YOU. You are a fucking stranger to them.

Therefore, they have no obligations towards you. As a matter of fact, NOBODY IN THE WORLD OWES YOU SHIT.
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trent3reznor wrote:These
trent3reznor wrote:
These girls DO NOT KNOW YOU. You are a fucking stranger to them.

Therefore, they have no obligations towards you. As a matter of fact, NOBODY IN THE WORLD OWES YOU SHIT.


I don't think you're understanding the point here.
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trent3reznor wrote:These
trent3reznor wrote:
These girls DO NOT KNOW YOU. You are a fucking stranger to them.

Therefore, they have no obligations towards you. As a matter of fact, NOBODY IN THE WORLD OWES YOU SHIT.


You're not hitting it on the level it needs to be addressed at.

lol but obviously you're right.
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I can actually really relate
I can actually really relate to this on some level. I think this is a really foundational problem that is near and dear to me. I say, forget empathy, calibration and everything else for a minute and just take a few breaths when you're feeling frustrated. Focus on being relaxed and having fun with whatever interaction you're in, pof or otherwise. Think of the actual words you use as a little boat being deposited on a beach by a large wave which is your emotional state. If the wave is calm, steady, easy, the boat will land gently in the beach (Telling a girl to kill herself is like a very delicate boat). If the waves are mad and ferocious, the boat will crash to splinters no matter how strong it is. I encourage you to just try and relax and frame everything in a positive way( you seem to want to frame everything as a rejection, when its probably not). Always assume she thinks your awesome but for some reason just isn't able to get back to you. There are unlimited women out there, unlimited chances to get it right. Enjoy the process brother.
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The point is you need to stop
The point is you need to stop taking the way people respond to you so seriously.

If a girl decides she doesn't want to talk to you anymore, SHE'S ENTITLED TO DO THAT.

Read the thread title.

"Why are girls so MEAN TO ME?!?!" Because she's a human being with free will.

Nobody owes you anything. Needing everybody to be nice to you is selfish and childish.
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More importantly...why are
More importantly...why are you trying to get phone numbers? You cant fuck a number. I'd say keep gaming her and try to pull to a seduction location.
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rogan wrote:More
rogan wrote:
More importantly...why are you trying to get phone numbers? You cant fuck a number. I'd say keep gaming her and try to pull to a seduction location.


I don't think she's interested anymore.