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Need some input on visual representation of the training..

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So I had this idea of creating a graph as a visual representation of how most live training programs take you to the approach and maybe 30 seconds past, and then that's it. I want to show this program taking you the WHOLE way.. graphically. Obviously I have to get it designed so I'm looking for ideas. Some stuff I found while browsing around for ideas:

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Line Graph x axis: One



Line Graph

x axis: One interaction
Y axis: time of one night. example 9pm-bars/clubs closing

Obviously multiple Graphs bc of multiple interactions

or

Bar graph with one bar comparison in the a certain color of your choosing (grey) and another bar right next to it in (green) :

x axis: amount of girls average guy sleeps with...7 I think

y axis: 2 bars next to each other grey and green. Average number of girls a guy sleeps with in grey, average number of girls guy sleeps with after training green. And use real statistics. One is obviously considerably higher.

Make sense?

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Yes, that's the easy part.

Yes, that's the easy part. I'm talking about the visual representation. Obviously the "math" can be configured a multitude of ways, I'm just trying to figure out the coolest way of doing it. Hence the images I added 

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hey fack you buddy! Put some

hey fack you buddy! Put some Northern lights in there. I would have thought the visualizations part would have been the easy part.  Put scenes from a night club

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Yes but how do I meld a

Yes but how do I meld a visual representation in the form of a graph..

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What if you had another comic

What if you had another comic picture designed that was just a big picture in a night club.

You label a bunch of guys choding together as chodes/no bootcamp/whatever, then label some guy running around the club mass approaching girls /getting rejected as most PUA bootcamps, then have some guy pulling out the door as MW training.

It's like that picture that BG posted a while back of a bunch of people on a train. One dude has his girl grabbing onto him, trying to pull him closer/fall asleep on his shoulder while he obviously doesn't give a shit. Every other dude is either by himself or doing the opposite with his girl.

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Lol what picture is this?

Lol what picture is this? Haha. That's perfect 

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I dunno man. It was called

I dunno man. It was called something like "guess which guy gets laid" or something like that. He posted it rsdnation, but he's banned now, probably by you LOL. I know he posted it here too, just can't remember what it's called. I tried to find it, but gave up since he has a fuckin million posts and didn't know you wanted it.

I'll see if I can find it later if you don't first.

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I'm personally a massive fan

I'm personally a massive fan of the Line Graph/Pictograph one-two combo. Mixing in a couple monotone club shots in the backdrop for context could make them awesome looking.

I'll scribble some shit later cause I'm getting giddy and what I described isn't clear in the slightest.

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I'm personally a massive fan

Double.

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Hmm, yeah I'm not completely

Hmm, yeah I'm not completely understanding but I'm interested

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Manwhore, from what I've seen

Manwhore, from what I've seen you're the only coach who does "drill based training." Maybe you'd want to highlight that, i.e. level of competency for drill based training vs. typical "bootcamp based training"

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RezznT wrote: What if you had

RezznT wrote:
What if you had another comic picture designed that was just a big picture in a night club.

You label a bunch of guys choding together as chodes/no bootcamp/whatever, then label some guy running around the club mass approaching girls /getting rejected as most PUA bootcamps, then have some guy pulling out the door as MW training.

I like this idea. Except have him pulling two girls out the door :))

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Infinity wrote: Manwhore,

Infinity wrote:
Manwhore, from what I've seen you're the only coach who does "drill based training." Maybe you'd want to highlight that, i.e. level of competency for drill based training vs. typical "bootcamp based training"

Mr. Balls what do you think makes up "typical bootcamp based" training?

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One-size-fits-all over a

One-size-fits-all over a weekend

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haha yah graphs are cool and

haha yah graphs are cool and everything but I think an actual video from you would speak volumes! 

If you just flipped on the camera and talked about typical bootcamp programs and why they don't lead to lasting, lifechanging results. Then bring up what makes your bootcamp program special! I think people would buy into that a lot more. 

Also have you ever thought about creating pre bootcamp drills? 

Like basically if someone signs up for a bootcamp a month in advance you have them do a few daily drills to get them to a certain level for when its bootcamp time. That would be fucking kick ass!!!!! Your students would come in already at a much more legit level. Then your coaching would accellerate their gains to a whole new level. 

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Fuck yes my holidays have

Fuck yes my holidays have begun, time to do some me-shit.

Sketching as we speak, but take a look at this pretty little diagramatic timeline.

http://payload.cargocollective.com/1/3/124512/1713728/resume.VisualTimeline04.22.2013_1_o.jpg

Your drill-based training has a very flexible structure because it's a person-to-person back and forth exchange, you've got to find the weaknesses and strengths in your client and bolster them yadda yadda... of course- BUT, from doing the training- I came to realize there was a general outline you went by. Strengthening the vocal chords, working on the flow and expression- all that good stuff (that we ended up doubling back on- which is by far some of the most potent shit we worked on). You could use a little diagram like the above to outline the week-by-week general structure of a "typical" drill-based first months training. Mix in some good 'marketing' (titties) and you're good to go.

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I like your last paragraph

I like your last paragraph mang. If you don't mind I may use that in some marketing I do.

As far as the visual timeline.. you're not understanding. I want something that visually communicates the measurement. This image is just a grey background with white squiggles and some dots here and there. NOTHING visually represents her "love affair with books" or "sold first painting". 

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You're welcome to it man.

You're welcome to it man. Long as you include some titties.
Ah, but the form, not the style the timeline takes is key! The purpose of the above one clearly wasn't gauging or scaling- it was archiving. The form the timeline would take would be a little more feisty.
I'd imagine if it did take the form of a timeline stretching back the first month of training, the gauge of measurement would be almost like 'exp' in pokemon lol. Bar chart would work in this context. You'd also be able show that in a bootcamp scenario, the time scale is basically 3 days/1 weekend. A fraction of the drill-based training in comparison. Just saying larger scale time's a factor.

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We communicate through sketch

We communicate through sketch in the arch world- so here yah go:

Green is bootcamp, Red is MW Training.

The tapers and plateaus are exaggerated, but fuck it. Idea is that coaching generally occurs after a pleteau, the red scribbled zones are when you're "on your own" so to speak, so you're not flailing about with nowhere to go or launched into the deep end immediately (bootcamp style shows violent and blatant improvement before reaching plateau- only thing I think now looking at it is the blatant improvement should like reach the point of week 2/3, but then the plateau and possible dive afterwords is equally violent.

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Hmm that is an interesting

Hmm that is an interesting way of illustrating this.

Aww shit man you just gave me a crazy idea... 

Aww shit. 

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