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I wanted to say a lot more about this on the teleconference but didn't get the chance.

Last month I posted a conversation on Facebook, that I had with a girl I approached. She actually blew me off with the boyfriend excuse lol. (That didn't work so well for her) This convo ended up getting 120+ comments of just pure hate. Everything from "objectifying women," "Rape culture" to "I suck with women." Even my own uncle was like "Son, you don't know shit. I would've at least done it with much more class bla bla bla." MASSIVE social pressure.

Yeah, so the point is, like Manwhore said, just don't even try to talk about it. A lot of people will literally attack you for stepping outside the bounds of what they expect. So as far as your friend goes, and your question about boundaries...  This guy sounds like he's very firm in his reality. So you pulling off stuff he can't (because of his limiting beliefs) puts his reality in jeopardy and he will fight to the death to defend it and try to put you in line in order to preserve it. My suggestion for you is to set an "inner boundary" where you make a conscious choice to not even be effected by his beliefs. Which means taking your ego out of it. At the end of the day, he's going to do and believe and judge you in ways that you have no control over. But It's YOUR FUCKIN WORLD. Not his.

Like I said, he will literally do anything to defend his reality. This means possibly trying to go around telling girls that you are a "player" and that you cheat on girls etc in order to turn them against you. As long as you are open about it, you're fine and he'll end up choding himself for doing it. People will always follow the stronger reality. For example, your line would be, "Yeah du'uh... I'm 18. I like girls. I don't see any reason why I need to be with one girl."

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Yes he nailed every single

Yes he nailed every single part of it. Watch the fuck out with this stuff. Infinity got a wuffle bat to the ass so take his word for awkward and tense things can get with sheeple. They will defend their reality to the death. 

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Cool.  Infinity is Correct

Cool.  Infinity is Correct here.

People won't change unless they have a reason to.  And usually, they will resist till death as noted unless they can see that they are fucking up. Anyways, here is a point i would like to add too

It is rarely/never a good idea to discuss belief systems with someone without agreeing upon the discussion before hand.  What I mean is that if you are with someone that you know is on the same page as you than by all means (the forum). Or someone that asks, "hey dude, I am interested in becoming more advanced emotionally/spiritually/what have you" than you can give them a sort of introduction.  

But the way that this guy came across as you described it in the call was totally reactive behaviour and to try to discuss ANYTHING on the same topic line is never going to pan out in an emotionally favorable situation.   When pushed, dont pushed back, pull.  So he says that shit about not breaking up with her you say, "Hey man I appreciate your opinon."  Leave it at that.  He keeps probing you, you say "It's good to know that you care about it man, and I really appreciate it." 

What I mean is deflect that shit.  Is this guy someone that you really care about if he is judging you so harshly like that.  Its clear he doesn't care about your hapiness, he cares about validating his belief systems which is a worldly epidemic actually and something that I notice all the time in myself.

Anyway, just wanted to touch up what I said in the call because I have a ton of experience with hanging out with parasitic people, questioning others motives, feeling seriously confused about it all, etc...

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I find it sometimes helps to

I find it sometimes helps to keep some motion, physically or verbally. If he tries to stop you in the hall, keep moving. If he tries to force a conversation on you, change the subject and Lead it into another direction. If he tries to corner you in any way just give a confused look and keep moving, keep talking but forgetting about the shit he's trying to bring up. Of course this rule is not universal. There are certainly times when if someone confronts me with some bullshit that I don't want to hear or talk about, I will not respond at all and they will certainly get the message. It's your show, you never have to talk about anything you don't want to.

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Thanks everyone, great

Thanks everyone, great advice.

The kids my friend, he just doesn't realize how bitchy and naggy he sounds sometimes. I think the reason he started pissing me off so much is because i'm struggling to accept these new ideas, because I don't exactly live the life just yet, and this brings my state down because I begin to second guess my own reality (like someone said in the call). I think the great part about these teleconferences is I get to hear all of the advanced guys disucuss threesomes and what not, and it reallly is starting to become more acceptable in my own mind. So I am grateful for that!

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Yo! Meow I'll reply more

Yo! Meow I'll reply more later, I am PISSED I missed yesterday's call! But I recently had a breakthrough with this exact problem. Post more later, brb taking a shit at work