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A girl's blueprint - making seduction easier 'n shit

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Since training with MW I've been able to go on SO many more dates than I did before (last months less cuz of financial stuff, but let's not get into that). Some girls I've made naked poetry with. Most girls not. All girls are different, but there are stuff that connect them. They have different "blueprints" so to speak. I had no idea of this in the beginning, though it makes sense now. I believe the guys that are REALLY good with women and don't know about this system are SO present and fucking good at reading a girl in real time, that they're capable of getting down to her knickers anyway, lol.

BAAAM!! Out of nowhere I run into this Vin DiCarlo product called Pandora's Box, which states that there are basically 3 important variables in a girl's mind that determines how to seduce her most efficiently. It has nothing to do with her morals and doesn't at all make her a bad person. Each girl has a mix of each variable, but favors one. These are:

1. The Timeline. This determines her strategy as to finding a partner for hanky panky time. 2 variables: Investor or a Tester. Investors are typically girls that have mostly been in serious relationships during their lives. They tend to find ONE "Perfect" guy and get into a relationship with him, aka girlfriend material. Testers usually date several guys simultaneously (many times each guys is unknowing about the others), don't necessarily sleep with all of them, but get some kinda perfect combination of guys that give her all kinds of validation and stimulance. It's VERY difficult for an Investor to do the same.

2. The Sex Line. The most important aspect for us, I shit you not. The vast majority of women have had some sorta sexual trauma or negative feelings associated to sex in their lives. On one hand women LOVE sex, much more than men, usually. On the other hand, men are usually physically stronger, more powerful and can easily intimidate a woman, rape her or hurt her. They have to daily deal with unwanted advances. They MUST deal with it in some way, or they'll go berserk. It's important NOT to judge her for this. Again, two variables: Deniers and Justifiers. Deniers can just deny that it ever happened, to the point that they totally make themselves forget that it ever happened, so that she can continue to enjoy sex with other men. Justifiers deal with it by reducing the value of sex itself. Let's get back to this one in a bit, cuz we're here to fuck them honeys aren't we ;-)

3. Relationship Line. All women are born with the biological drive to procreate and have children. In today's society women are often pressured to have a career and be completely self-supportive. All women have a fear of not finding a great guy to be with, that will provide and take care of her and her family – but Realists feel the fear the most, and because of that strive to become completely self-sufficient. Two variables: Idealists and Realists. Realists have this fear the most. Idealists have an image in their minds of how they want their family life to be, with a husband or something akin to it.

It makes sense that seducing each of these 8 types that come out of this system is gonna be different from the rest. Let's look a bit more into the Sex Line (After I was like "Wooooowww, the training I got with MW makes even MORE sense now" and it just cements my respect for his shit, and secondly "OMMMGGGGG!!!! This shit explains why this or THAT date didn't go well. Wholly fuck!".

Deniers

  • This does NOT mean that it will take a LONG time before you can sleep with a Denier. In fact, it’s a good thing to sleep with her as quickly as possible. Because… this will make her think that you’re VERY special and significant and that you have a very special connection with her. If you screw up and act too much like a player or over game her, you’re more likely to lose her.
  • RAMP the compliance, VERY quickly.
  • Much more shy about sex and sex talk. Keep the sexual tension to a minimum.
  • Block out negative memories. Acts is if they never happened. Molestation, rape and sexual assault… they’re all blocked out because the memories are way too difficult to handle. It allows her to STILL feel that sex is a very positive and powerful event.
  • They are often MORE IMMERSED in the bodily feelings of sex than justifiers. Usually, not always. It can be a more special and unique experience to have sex with a denier, because they’ve had far fewer sexual partners.
  • Strong religious/conservative background as well. She’ll have a more compartmentalized part of her life. Double Life.
  • Deniers are MORE likely to send you naked pictures. Their sexuality is more hidden, but needs an outlet.
  • More likely to LIE to you, the more they like you, in order to maintain a good image.
  • If they cheat, they will be far less likely to let you know.  
  • They are very well in tune with how they are being perceived, at all times, by people around them.
  • They may even be grossed out by other girls who have done some kinky stuff, more partners. They will be VERY judgmental and critical of women who have had more than, say 10 partners in their life. She’ll sleep with 15 or less partners in her entire life…
  • Often become justifiers as they get older and become more open to casual encounters… “The Cougar Effect”.
  • You can be much more sexually persistent with a Denier. Much more so than a Justifier, because she’s used to denying guys. She’s used to withhold herself and saying no already. “Not yet approach, but stick around”.
  • Having sex with a Denier can sometimes feel like she’s loosing something, because sex is associated with pain and loss, and if you haven’t done the proper groundwork, they WILL withhold sex to retain the power in a relationship.
  • Often critical of other women who have been sexually liberal/adventurous.
  • Not necessarily harder to sleep with.

 

 

Justifiers

  • More likely to cheat, but more open “Hey, it was just sex! Get over it!”
  • Quicker to sleep with you anyway. Just don’t make it a big deal – That’s the KEY!
  • If you are too sexually persistent with a Justifier then she’s REALLY gonna start to lose interest. She needs to feel validated for the person she is, for her intelligence, charm womanliness. If she doesn’t have sex with you when you try, she’s gonna put you in the friend zone.
  • She’s had the same sexually traumatic experience as the Denier, but she justifies them by lowering the significance of sex in her mind. It makes that negative experience less painful. It allows her to retain full access to that memory.
  • Less compartmentalized mind.
  • Very susceptible to sexual tension. You can use sexual language and turn her on very quickly.
  • She gives it up more easily. Sex in public. Sex with more men and women at the same time. More likely to be an escort.
  • Carries MUCH less weight for a Justifier. DON’T BECOME CLINGY. NO BIG DEAL!
  • Sometimes will have had HUNDREDS of sex partners in their life.
  • Can be VERY loyal when tamed, if you can become her “Prince Charming”.
  • PRO-TIP: Focusing on sex with justifiers is useless. You need to make her feel special. POUR ON THE ROMANCE! She’s gonna resist it at first, but use it and make her feel special. She’ll really feel like you’re healing her from the inside. You can NOT become THAT Special Guy, her Prince Charming if you focus only on sex. If you’re too horny of a guy and make aggressive advances way too quickly, then she WILL lose respect for you and it’s something that’s VERY difficult to recover from!
  • WHILE you’re escalating on a girl, getting physical, you’re advancing on a justifier, they will sometimes go SO FAR as to think that hooking up with THEIR idea and this makes them VERY susceptible to things like sexual re-framing, sexual-prizing, falsely accusing THEM of hitting on YOU, accusing THEM of going too fast with you, of hitting on you. That stuff is VERY effective with justifiers. Dynamite for Justifiers!
  • While dating a Justifier, you have to be extremely vigilant. They LOVE to test your limits… over and over again. Just to test how much of a man you are. Just to see how much of a man you truly are. You need to be aware of these tests so you can nip them in the bud by "punishing" them IMMEDIATELY. When a Justifier tests you then you by disrespecting you, insulting you, making you DO something for her that you really shouldn’t be doing, you have to punish her immediately by withdrawing your attention, going cold on her. If you fail those tests then her attraction just drops. That’s something Deniers don’t do.
  • Testing Justifiers can be extremely tough to deal with, but if you can pass her initial tests and not be shaken off by them, then having sex with them becomes EXTREMELY easy.
  • It’s got NOTHING to do with her morals. Remember that! Do NOT judge her for that. She NEEDS this mechanism to survive.
  • You need to “punish” a Justifier IMMEDIATELY when she fucks with you, or humiliates you, or you will be put in the friend zone!
  • If she resists your sexual advances, you must chill out and appear indifferent. Don’t be sexually persistent with a Justifier. You will be put in the friend zone! If they sense that you want sex too much, or that sex is a big deal to you, then you’re fucking yourself, NOT them, lol.
  • GIRLS GONE WILD! Right before they make her take her top off or do something else naughty, they use that kinda Justifier logic. Get them and watch them fuckers! ;-D ... Or you can start with this one MW posted: http://manwhore.org/forum/content/video-demonstrates-exactly-why-i

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After going through some of

After going through some of this material, my respect for ManBalls has just grown. Hats off, motherfucker! ;-)

Test that profiles a chick: http://3simplequestions.com/quiz/?lnkt=&x=a684eceee76fc522773286a895bc84...

The 8 different types: http://www.vindicarlopandorasboxsite.com/#These_different_dualities_are_...

This shit is very powerful. I've designed my Tinder profile to screen for "Hopeful Romantic"s and "Cinderella" types. I went on a date with a HR and it went a little too well, it kinda freaked her out. Use it with caution.

And yeah, for those of you who don't understand... each chick IS unique, this is a rough skeleton to her personality. You still have to get to know her :P

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Apologies for all the

So many capitalized letters. These are MY notes from a .doc-file, lol

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And so how'd you apply this

And so how'd you apply this stuff? 

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I've only recently gotten

I've only recently gotten into it, but so far I've used it to screen for the type of girls I want and strategies for seduction. I only go on dates with them when I can tell with some confidence what type she is/might be.

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'k 30 seconds on the clock

'k 30 seconds on the clock for anyone who can say what's massively wrong with that. LOL!

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Dunno

Dunno

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Yes bro you're severely

Yes bro you're severely limiting yourself. There's no way you should be resisting meeting up with these girls just because you aren't able to create some sort of sexual dynamic beforehand and/or understand her "psychological profile". 

So is that the only way you're applying this model? And what about successes from it? Are you only using it as a screening mechanism? 

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a lot of this totally makes

a lot of this totally makes sense but dayyyum that's a lot to think about. It hurts my brain just reading,. Like MW always says why not just focus on being awesome. That one word is actually all you need.