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What do you guys think of this? 

I'm in full sympathy honestly. She's not territory, she shouldn't need a dude around to make this guy stop hitting on her or engaging her in a fashion she doesn't like. For him to be so blatant about the fact he's looking for a girl to date is creepy to a woman. It's basically a dude completely showcasing the fact he's low value and doesn't have a woman. For him to say this is shocking to women. For him to admit it but still be going after her is BIZARRE. Because no woman wants a guy like that he's completely turned her off already. And to not understand any of this intrinsically is to say he's basically a child when it comes to women and dating/sex. 

Look.. there's a truthful and genuine way of doing this. We've been over it over and over again. Even if you're going direct, you can still make it cool and alright with her. This guy's just walking up slapping her in the face with a big floppy clammy tuna fish. 

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I mean, this guy clearly has

I mean, this guy clearly has some pretty terrible views of women and game just as bad. I'm sure this is probably going to become clear to him eventually with the perpetual negative feedback.

I understand this woman's frustration, but it's like, if you're a girl, dealing with dudes who have shit game and are "creepy" is just part of life. Most guys have shit game and our culture says that guys must approach. Unless she's gonna be a hermit and never go outside, shes gonna have to deal with them eventually. As far as his behavior goes, unless you're gonna say this guy commited sexual assault (I dont think he did) then theres really nothing to be done about this situation. Obviously she can complain on facebook if she wants, but implementing any kind of public policy around her feelings would be completely asinine. Maybe shes just complaing for the sake of commplaining, because anything more than that would be totally insane. I mean, you can't just put some guy in jail for having bad game, rofl.

And lets be real as well, some of her views on PUA and guys approaching chicks are complete garbage. She's basically saying, you can't even try to approach her, because the dude is just trying to get laid and thats apparently, in her view, bad. Really what she is saying is she just doesn't wanna have to deal with guys like this, but thats not how things work in our society. In a public place, he has the right to approach her if he wants to. She has the right to not talk to him or to ask him to leave. If the dude tries more than 3 or 4 times and she still doesn't wanna talk, then obviously he should just leave. If he doesn't leave then at that point then yes you're probably entering contacting the police for harrasment or restraining order territory.

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Yes she's trying to say that

Yes she's trying to say that "trying to get laid" is predatory in nature when honestly it's not. That's a bit of an immature perspective on her part. But yes this dude should be more aware of what he's doing and how he's coming across and not be so offensive. 

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And this is coming from a guy

And this is coming from a guy who sold pub crawl tickets on the strip yesterday just 'cuz I thought it'd be fun and I wanted to help a buddy out. 

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There was a crazy as chick

There was a crazy as chick that kept approaching me even though i made it clear i didnt wanna talk to her, and then she harrassed my girl aswell because she was jealous or something.

Probably even worse for most girls with uncalibrated objectifying guys approaching them

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Ouch. I feel badly for the

Ouch. I feel badly for the girl being made uncomfortable, unsafe and more on guard now just walking the streets and sadly, younger me can empathize with this guy approaching. Cause god knows I've fucked up a lot and creeped out a ton of girls on my path to getting better with women lol

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Something like this was bound

Something like this was bound to happen sooner or later. Chicks just aren't going to be complacent with this type of behavior. 

Yeah maybe she's hyperbolic in her language, I would be too. Much more, Jeffy-rant level hyperbolic.

 As far as his behavior goes, unless you're gonna say this guy commited sexual assault (I dont think he did) then theres really nothing to be done about this situation

There is. The public shaming. She just did it lol. He's in a public place, she can legally take vids/pics of him. 

If this public shaming thing catches on, this isn't the end of pickup. Just an end to this sociopathic style. If anything it's better for people who actually practice pickup. Take out the weeds and you have more room for the flowers. Plus you won't be associated with this weirdos. If you're ever in an venue with a lot of 'PUAs' you know what I'm talking about, girls close off to everyone halfway through the night haha. 

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DeChee wrote: Something like

DeChee wrote:
Something like this was bound to happen sooner or later. Chicks just aren't going to be complacent with this type of behavior. 

Yeah maybe she's hyperbolic in her language, I would be too. Much more, Jeffy-rant level hyperbolic.

 As far as his behavior goes, unless you're gonna say this guy commited sexual assault (I dont think he did) then theres really nothing to be done about this situation

There is. The public shaming. She just did it lol. He's in a public place, she can legally take vids/pics of him. 

If this public shaming thing catches on, this isn't the end of pickup. Just an end to this sociopathic style. If anything it's better for people who actually practice pickup. Take out the weeds and you have more room for the flowers. Plus you won't be associated with this weirdos. If you're ever in an venue with a lot of 'PUAs' you know what I'm talking about, girls close off to everyone halfway through the night haha. 

^ EXACTLY. 

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He should be more socially

He should be more socially aware of his approaches. I'm all for persitance but this is borderline harrassment and comes across as "creepy".

He could go to jail here UK now for that type of "bad game" scary times.

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Poolidol that's a bit of a

Poolidol that's a bit of a stretch mang. I'm assuming you've never really gotten into cold approach? 

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I'm a beginner did a few over

I'm a beginner did a few over the last year i love it, i have lot of AA lol but I'll eventually beat it if it kills me :)

Don't mean to diss the guy as he is levels above me. And these ridiculous laws got proposed Thursday here in the UK, i can show you the article man.

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Dozens of girls are posting

Dozens of girls are posting on facebook about how they've been harrased by these two and told them to fuck off multiple times. Not your average guys trying to learn how to pick up girls it seems... 

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Damn that blows, lol. Yeah

Damn that blows, lol. Yeah makes me wonder what else is going on. Isn't one of the guys calling himself a coach or something? 

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DeChee wrote: Something like

DeChee wrote:
Something like this was bound to happen sooner or later. Chicks just aren't going to be complacent with this type of behavior. 

Yeah maybe she's hyperbolic in her language, I would be too. Much more, Jeffy-rant level hyperbolic.

 As far as his behavior goes, unless you're gonna say this guy commited sexual assault (I dont think he did) then theres really nothing to be done about this situation

There is. The public shaming. She just did it lol. He's in a public place, she can legally take vids/pics of him. 

If this public shaming thing catches on, this isn't the end of pickup. Just an end to this sociopathic style. If anything it's better for people who actually practice pickup. Take out the weeds and you have more room for the flowers. Plus you won't be associated with this weirdos. If you're ever in an venue with a lot of 'PUAs' you know what I'm talking about, girls close off to everyone halfway through the night haha. 

Not really. A guy who is obviously massively dense and isn't affected by girls IRL telling him to fuck off isn't gonna somehow start caring enough to change his behavior cause of a facebook post. Guys like this have no shame, cause they're just oblivious to any negative social feedback. Her post isn't going to change a single thing. I mean, RSD Julien took more negative press in the past 2 years than probably any PUA ever and judging by his infields, girls don't give a shit. Even if he had terrible game and was actively creeping girls out on a regular basis, still, no one would give a shit. Not enough to make it so that the majority of chicks he meets will have a negative opinion of him before he even approaches. Thats the only way public shaming could have an effect. And even then, these guys still probably wouldnt get it lol.

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Yeah I'd mostly agree

Yeah I'd mostly agree

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Manwhore wrote: Damn that

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Damn that blows, lol. Yeah makes me wonder what else is going on. Isn't one of the guys calling himself a coach or something? 

I remember a while back some guy posted in a pua facebook group 'check out this solid kiss close during the day. Taking applications for bootcamp' and it during the whole thing the girl look super creeped out and cringed her face when he kissed her. Everyone make fun of him. Found it hillarious that guy was so out of touch that he couldn't even tell how uncomfortable she was on video, and that he was good enough to be teaching bootcamps.