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Haha so I don't know if anyone saw my post on rsd but befor I went out we were going to try a work out supplement. Shit makes you sooo damn focused like I've gotten tunnel vision from it. I decided it was too hardcore so I just took some tyrosine pills, one of the main ingredients to see what happened. Tyrosine makes you kinda alert, focused and kills butterflies in your stomach. They use it for public speaking a lot. So I give it a try but the dosage wasn't strong enough ( it varies wildly) BUT hahaha my friend sliped me a boner pill in with the tyrosine!! Frig hahah I laughed so hard when he told me. He said he took one at work and had a boner for an hour and half without thinking or doing a single sexual thing. But alas... I still didn't feel shit. It's an all natural sex pill ( Forta?) so maybe it's effectiveness works different on some ppl... But I didn't even feel the tyrosine much so... I don't know. It's too bad actually would've been awesome running around with a huge rager that I'm extremely focused on

The actual fr: so I picked up my best buddy and then closer to the club we grab my friend (who is reallyy cute but havent banged.. I really think I have some mental block about sex with ppl close to me. It sucks. Cause I KNOW it's the same but I physche myself out everytime for some reason.) and her friend visiting from Ireland. I've seen a few pictures of her on Facebook and she looked "meh" at best but shit! When I saw her in person she was hotter than my friend, sooo different from her pics. So we picked them up and head to see a dj spin. We each do a good job of vibeing in the car, chode questions laced with teasing and humour.

Then we got there and it was pretty dead. My penis is still flaccid and I wanted to change that. We ditch the girls for a few minutes and wander around talking to ppl. I hit up the dance floor, it's mostly e-heads and not much potential, I briefly chat to one girl and leave it open for later. I go back to grab a beer and my friend is talking to the two girls we came with. The Irish one is talking to him and the other one is texting. Tonality is such a cool thing to know about because I jus yelled out the girls name on the phone with that smirk in my voice and right away she closed her phone and gave me wide eyes. Awesome. So we all were talking for maybe 20-30 mins. Over that time I positioned myself against the bar and turned around kinda so I kinda isolated my girl. I mean the other two were in arms length but my girls back was to them. I give her laser vision for most of the time BUT I noticed a sticking point of mine come up again. Advice please!

I can hold eye contact really good. Not an issue at all but if we start talki g about something I'm passionate about - ohhhh just figured it out as I type!! - OR if the conversation is getting too logical!! Yeah I think that's it. My eye contact breaks. Not down or anything but if I'm passionate about something I look away to try to focus on that I guess. Or if the Convo gets to deep logically I look away to think. Which is badd.. Or well I do a good job of bantering. I do slight link but not enough! FUCK if it was some random girl I wouldve just molested her till her called the cops with my hands and laser vision and sans words. But girls I know I try to seduce with my words?? Why can't I do it the same? It's 100% percent in my head but I have some really weird, irrational fears about groping girls I'm friends with. Kind of a self fulfilling prophecy cause since I have the fear I don't kino 100% in the moment and it doesn't work or I go in half assed. But their is a bit of physicality. like I grabbed her hand when she was talking about her ring. Then checked out her ear rings with my hands. But I wasn't leading enough. Gotta remember this USE KINO TO LEAD!! I do a bit by moving her around when ppl walk my or I want to change positions but next time I need to bring her to the couches to talk, hold her hand when walking, pull her in my her waist to hear her, etc. lead with kino. Ohh and I looked at her lips a few times just because they were nice. But nothing back. She didnt look away or anything but she didn't look at mine or get noticeably aroused. So at this point she's attracted, I'm still keeping the buyers frame, subtly screening her but that deep arousal wasn't there. I'm pretty sure because I wasn't leading hard enough and my laser vision had a few breaks. ***just another realization, fuck I forget how awesome writing stuff out is. Just thought of this: I didn't go into deep rapport with her! Like she just got back from a big trip and is leaving again for a new job in a few months. And we talked about that shit but I didn't really dive into those deep questions. Asking her about her emotions regarding that stuff. Last time I hung out with this girl before her trip I did a good job of that. I relate to BG when he says he is good at getting deep rapport with ppl. Last time I hung out with this girl I got "I can't believe I'm telling you this haha" several times in the same night, that's always a good sign!

When I was a natural pre pickup that would be my game. Get deep emotional connection, stimulate her that way and then if we were alone since she is already aroused emotionally by the convo the kiss is easy. Post game I've been working on escalating like a mother while kind of ignoring the deep rapport especially in cold approach. Im going to really work in bringing the two together. Soooo what I could've done better so far: lead her around, separate her from her friend completely, get into deeper rapport with breaks of "fuck you" aka pushes.

So we ditch the girls and hit the dance floor. It's getting busier but still fairly small. I love cramped high energy dance floors. I tear it up in them. This one is kinda spaced out and more chill. I dance floor a while and get a kiss on the cheek from a lesbian haha. She was really gross, reaked of cigarettes, and soo weird (drunk?) she kept saying her girlfriend was there, she was 100% lesbian but that me ad my friend were really cute. We fuck around with her for shits and gigs trying to get her to kiss each other. I was saying "look I know your a lesbian but you said my friend was really cute and like most Asians he is a little shy. He really likes you and if you could peck him on the lips I know it would give him a nice confidence boost." we start tag team grinding her and she is molesting the crap out of us. Really gross actually haha but it's funny, so we peace from her and she grabbed each of our heads and just rapes our cheeks with her tongue. Ewwww hahaha.

Umm other sets, the girls at this point found us on the dance floor and we dance with them for a bit while talking to others in the area and goofing off. I go to the bathroom and right when I left there were two cuties at the ATM right outside the washroom. I was still doing up my pants and I was commando last night haha. So the one kinda looks at me because I'm stopped doing up my pants and I say that it's a terrible spot for an ATM. She said something I forget but no eye contact. I tell her I wouldve stolen her money but she was reall cute. That got a reaction out of her and her head popped up. But jusssstt as that happened a guy came and started talking to her. She did a 180 so I just peaced. I couldve introduce myself to the guy quickly and lead the convo back to a me and her thing. Oh well, I hope to see her later on. I don't.

On the way back to my group I walked between two girls talking as I usually don't give a fuck while I'm walking. They say excuse me!! Really loud so I turn to face them and they gave me shit for walking through. Like not like "hey watch out" but realllyyy bitchy like. So I gave them so much shit right back. The brunette was a 6 but her blonde friend was really hot. fuck I wish I remembered what I said.. It was something like "no duh I stepped through your pathetic little conversation, what was soo important?" and then I belittled them saying that they were just talking about blowing guys in the washroom for coke money and all this shit. But the wording was awesome and I was in full yelling mode without sounding emotionally hurt in the least. It was awesome. They were kinda stunned at first but I just turned and my group was right there haha. They heard me yelling but didn't hear what (thank god). So I dance with them for a bit and I got into a "play fight" with my friend. We start shoving each other pretending we are about to lose it. And guess who are the ones to try to break us up this time? Those bitchy chicks. So I don't even awknowledge them and when everyone was watching this "fight" about to go down. I grabbed my friends head and go to kiss him. Hahah he plays into it too but he backs away with laughter first. Haha that's always a fun thing to do. So the girls are still right in front of us. The blonde is beside me and the ugly brunette is talking to him. She's like "you were going to kiss him? Ewww!" I stayed super chill, like their shit tests were sooo obvious they were easy to pass and they were attracted with the face of bitches which makes it even easier to deal with their bullshit. I say yeah look at him, hes goreous don't you think so? And she says "yeah he isn't bad" and I said "just look at the ass on him!" she agrees and I say it's not as good as this one though and I grabbed her ass cheek hard. She melted instantly. I took my hand off her ass and asked her for her name. But I didn't do a good enough job of leading (I have to remember juliens way of leading the convo to realness. "hey HEY! Be real now be real, what's your name?" So she is still in bitch mode when I asked that. I should've either lead better or kept her in the bitchy role and stayed mean to her while conveying interest. Like kept my hand on her ass and told her it was the only thing she's good for. Something like that.

I ask her name and even though she likes my hand on her she is still in bitch mode and says "no one." so I go back into asshole mode and say "no one? Your parents mustve not liked you very much to name you that. We're you an accident?" So that line was funny as shit but even when I wanted to go into normal mode I fell back into her frame. I should've been like "hey! Listen no one. Be normal, tell me you real name girl." but my line still works and she is stunned in a good way. Her fucking ugly bitchy friend ruins the moment and says "what did you just say to her?" I cannot remember at all what I said but her brunette friend grabbed her and it honestly wasn't worth my effort cause I hated that brunette so much. So annoying and dumb. They pop up around us a few more times but I don't want to deal with brunette. Overall it was a cool set cause I haven't really had much experience yelling at girls at all in the club. That was a first for sure.

Our girls leave for home. They are getting bored since we got there early and the dance floor was stimulating enough to keep the aroused when we weren't there. So they leave. And I dance like a complete moron for a whole, hit up a few more sets but nothing noteable. Lights come on and this really tall hot chick asks me for some gum. She walked by me just before and I gave her the eye, she gives me this weird pooing look haha. Even my friend notices it and starts laughing. This girl thinks she is wayy hotter than she actually is. So she gives me that weird look and walks by a few times. When the lights come on she asks me for a gum. I said something but like I didn't really know what to say. She put me in My head. I didn't know what to say or do I choded out. But as we were leaving she is asking everyone so I just think she had smoke breath or something. She was with another girl and two dudes. I actually don't know what I could've done. Beyond my skillset.

We leave. I get a very quick street make out before her friends pull her off and away. Then we climbed some buildings and do some hood rat shit before we head home.



The most I learned tonight was talking with that girl I know and the bitchy set. For the girl I know it's soo clear what I should've done but I didn't do it. So for next time I'll definitely be able to talk action. The shit I did with the bitchy girls was wayyy outside my comfort zone (the yelling not the ass grabbed) so that was really cool, I was fine at the moment but after I noticed my heart pumping.

Before they left I talked to my girls about the next night (tonight). We're going to a baseball game (which I fucking love for gaming!!! Sooo many hot girls and you can pick them off when they get food or bathroom a lot of time they are by themselves) then after I was planning on going to a club. But the big group of them is going to a really popular spot in toroto. Place was designed for game. Really big venue, with small rooms and hallways, packed with collage girls. So I'm thinking I'll go the baseball game, do some deep rapport with the one girl and then molest her later at the venue.

ALAS this is a text game forum and that girl just texted me while typing this her: "how was the rest of the night?" we had a blast when they left. Danced, joked around, climb buildings, broke into construction site, etc. BUT the question now is do I just say like "yeah it was great, I'll see you tnight" and just stay neutral till tnight OR do I start greasing the wheels over text either for sex or just deep talk haha which will lead to sex... If its the latter I'll def need to be walked through it. I have no idea what I would say to get things going and am only comfortable just saying fluff till tnight. So thoughts? I'm going to go make a big ass lunch and then check here after
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@icewahine:
The girl in question is beatrice here is our other convo: http://manwhore.org/forum/content/feeling-good-and-some-bitch-named-beat...

P.s: she's not a bitch haha I just call a lot of girls bitches out of love. Her friend is definitely hotter but I would rather go for this one. She's not realllyyy hot but definitely hot but there is something about her that really turns me on. She's got like a bubbly personality but is kinda shy to show it. Coy if you will.
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Re: FR from last night
@icewahine:

Yea deep rapport over text is like super advanced. atleast for me.

I would keep it playful and accusatory. Instead of talking about what a good time u had after she left just BE the good time, over text and when u see her tonight. I was at a baseball game a couple weeks ago and it was cool at the tailgate cuz i was being physical and stuff but then when we got to the seats i kind of messed up the escalation. Keep in mind manwhore's escalation tactics that are socially acceptable w friends there, aka thumbwar, headlocks, nuggies. playfully pushing, picking her up and carrying her off... I need to work on the whole "reason for doing things" like making up reasons for why you're doing things. aka "you're embarassing me in public girl im gona have to take you over here." or "yer getting a time out girl" type shit. Blame her for something. and then use that to excuse why you're being physical. Manwhore's grab the forearms and ask her "why did you make it so hot today!" is another example. Idk im not good at this yet but ive done it before and its worked. dont be afraid to push outside your comfort zone w this girl or esle you will continue to be friends with her and nothing more.

keep in mind all the little shit will build. the more little schoolyard shit you do, the easier the escalation will be. If you do a good job w all that and eye contact there will probably be a point where she just melts into you 'cus youre awesome. And its on.
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So I didn't pull the trigger like manwhore kind of said in my other FRs. I know I have the ability but I am playing it wayyyy too safe. Gotta be willing to be burned in order to get success and I've been pussy footing with this girl. Getting her laughing and then not escalating. Then I'll give attention to her friends instead of showing my intent. Shit I feel more frustrated for her than me haha. I must be confusing.

So fuck! If you've been reading my posts this was the girl I got pissed about that she was with another guy yesterday (Sunday) and I texted her some weak sauce shit. Like horrible stuff. But fuck it. I got the damn fire in my belly and I'm going to molest this chick next time I see her even if it's in front of her mom.

Last time I saw her was Friday with tentative plans for Sunday. I didn't talk or text her sat to make plans (i was busy beasting. It was a great night but that's another FR) so Sunday comes along and I sleep in a bit and casually call her at 11. She was going out during the day and I was supposed to go with them. So I called that late and expected to be invited along. Again I was in a terrible mood so I called and no answer. She text me a few mins later and said (p.s: sorry in advance for making your guys game go down for merely reading this. I'm actually embarrassed about posting it)

Her: you rang?

Me: Just saying hi. *mutual friend* said you scored work off yesterday, which one of your family members did you guilt trip to cover your shift

I was teasing her about guilt tripping her friends on Friday. Cause she's really sarcastic so if someone doesn't cater to her she uses sarcasm. So it wasn't a terrible text but thing of what was happening. I was supposed to be with her then and was going to call to meet up and feel out her plans for the day and I text this shit. Omg should've just called back

4 hours later her: ok. Yeah, my manager gave me the night off. She had enough staff to cover all the sections so I went home and fell asleep at 10pm.
25 mins later me: 10? Yup def not adapted for city living again
Me: Did you suckers get rained out of wonderland today?

I was in a horrible mood yesterday and feeling needy. Instead of doing something else socially or productive I was fishing for the invite into her little plans for the eve. It's about 7 now.

9am today her: Absolutely soaked. But we stuck it out.
30 mins later me: *her friend from UK* should be used to the rain
3 pm today Her: Haha we embraced it. We're more then used to it



So stupid. At least I got over my stupid neediness and bad feeling, and most importantly Learned to realize when I'm in that state and how to get out of it. So she's probably doing something wednesday with her friend that I would probably get invite to, but Friday we will be alone for a while (we are car pooling to a friends who lives an hour away). I need the forums help on this one. Big time. Need to get her reacting to me again by maybe texting her some playful, funny stuff or bringing a negative range of emotions. Like in the other thread (I linked it in another post her) I texted her I hate you in a joking manner and we had decent banter. Is that a good idea or just leave her off the hook now and text again tomm or wed..
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@icewahine:

Lol oops. Next day I sent her:

Me: Hope your embracing the heat as much as the rain. Ommmggggg I'm goingg to meelllttttttt

Few hours later. After work her: I'm dead

Then a bit later I saw her fb an twitter status bitching that no one has eer bought her flowers so I sent me: RIP. Lmao don't worry punkn, now someone will get you flowers :)

I thought that text was funny as fuck. But no reply. It's been about 24 hours. I gotta talk to her tomm sometime cause we got plans Friday... I would probably send something tnight but it's her friends last night in town.. Probably bussaayy
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Ok that was a motherfucking WALL of text I couldn't read all that BUT I will make one point.. when I'm out with girl friends I'll randomly take their hand and place it on my dick, or I'll snuggle them, or I'll wrestle them down to the ground and spank the shit out of them. Or make jokes about them being whores. Being physical and sexual is just a functional part of a strong, fun personality.
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@Manwhore:

Haha no worries. It was just a bunch of sets from one night and the main course of two girls we brought to the club. Also a major highlight was my friend slipped me a sex pill before the club but unfortunately it didn't work....

Yeah I def need to inject more sexuality with my girlfriends. I'll get there