Entitlement, my sticking point.
I used to be a shy guy but after finding out game i banged a really hot girl, and a cutie.I also made out with girls almost every night i went out.
A while ago i quit going out to study for final exams, and then i had an incident that made me really stressed and chody all the time.
After graduating i quit hanging with most of my chody friends from small town, and started hanging with some cool guys. I have recovered from the "incident", but i still don't feel entitled to girls in the club, unless i have a few drinks, but its hella expensive here, lol.
I'll give some examples of some of my latest nights out:
Wednesday: on a boat cruise thing, i go to the dancefloor and start dancing and can't really approach anybody, then i go outside and talk to a super hot girl, and a fattie. I talk to them totally relaxed but i just don't feel entitled to the super hot girl, she was older, and taller. I don't esacalate. She came and talked to me later that night but in a "friendly" way. Her friends come and stick their hands inside my shirt and feel my chest, but i still don't do shit.
I go talk to some girl, have some lame conversation, then her friend comes and she leaves. Some other girls tell me to come with them, even though they are with their boyfriends who tell me to leave but i don't care and stay in. She later follows me to the bathroom on her own initiative, and i rub her pussy and her titties, i take her to the cabin but some people come in and interrupt. I leave and go make out with some brazilian chick.
But see all this was outside the "club", and the girl kinda threw herself at me.
On friday i went to the club and basicly the whole club was a dancefloor with loud music. I approach some girls but most of them just give me a "weird" look, or ignore me. Ok, i don't care, it doesn't affect my ego but i don't wanna run arround weirding out girls all the time. I didn't use to get the "weird look" from girls in the past. At some point i go outside to the "lounge area" and have a hilarous conversation with 2 girls, lead them arround the club but don't manage to pull in the end of the night, i kinda just gave up cuz i didn't feel entitled or something.
And this entitlement problem is not only with hotties, also with mediocre girls. One of the girls that i fucked probably has the best body i've ever seen. Some of the girls i made out with on different occasions but didn't fuck were among the prettiest girls ive witnessed with my own eyes.
In RSDnation guys would probably say "go out more", ok yeah sure i can go out more but i think i need to change my attitude somehow. Aside from the "game" aspect i'm doing pretty good. Sorry for the messy post, but i would appreciate it if you guys could give me some guidelines.
Just curious how often are you seeing these girls after you bang?
Just curious how often are you seeing these girls after you bang?
It was a while ago man. The first one a couple times, then she moved to another country. She still texts me though. One of them i banged and never saw again. There was one girl that i started hanging with quite often but she is like a 6 and seemed too clingy so i didn't bang. She and her friend wanted to have a threesome with me once also.
This is very very simple dude. This is the problem 98% of people have with life, why there are so few "winners" out there. I'm not putting a trip on you, I'm just explaining the issue. People want to be told what to do, and for the most part they are. "Go to school, get good grades, go to college, get a good job, or join the military. Get married, buy shit, be happy". That's the greatest "gift" that society has to offer, they will tell you what to do, they'll give you a path and a direction to take. There are thousands of routes/examples. Guilds, unions, large companies, video games. They give you a role and a job, and "fulfillment".
But when it comes to getting women, or being an entrepreneur, or getting a chiseled bod.. none of these are good enough. It takes a singularity of purpose, the ability to give more than you get, HARD discipline, self-leadership abilities.. all of these lead to a sense of self-trust and charisma. One of the greatest downfalls of the kind of system we're in is the widespread birth of derps. They've never had to figure shit out for themselves they never "grow up". It's a state of perpetual childhood. Similar to "rich kid syndrome". I was in it myself, I was GOOD at it. I had amazing grades, varsity sports, a job, went to a good college, joined the military as an officer, then got out in 2008. A WONDERFUL time to get out of a stable job lol. I realized I didn't know shit about the way things really worked, I wasn't an entrepreneur but I realized that was my main goal for the next few years, to become independent of the job/rat system. It took me a few years but I did it. I learned internet marketing and web development and quit the jobs I had.
In the end I want to go places and see things, I want to train martial arts at ACTUAL Asian schools. I want to WALK around Europe and South America. Then come back and beat up the system, but not address it from a public office sense, I want to undermine it by SUPPLYING a better way. I want to have the capabilities and effectiveness necessary to address police bullying and corruption, to address how the American system keeps the poor downtrodden. Even something super simple like setting up free "auto mechanic" workshops would raise WHOLE communities up from poverty.
Derps go into a club with the same mentality. "I see girls, I want, how do I get them? Someone tell me!" But there's no system in place. There used to be it was called the Catholic church. It controlled women's sexuality so well that you could be "awarded" a woman for being a good little cog in the wheel. Derps walk up to a girl or walk around, or stand around with their drinks held up to their chests, looking to be accepted before they feel comfortable enough to give back. That's bullshit. YOU have to be the one bringing the energy. You have to be the one leading from the get-go. The same self-motivated, self-initiating energy has to be ON to be able to walk up to a girl and MAKE something happen.
If you can't do that then develop a social circle and have status within it. Some people have managed to make this happen with almost minimal effort, or "consumer" type value, like drugs. This is why everyone wants to be a dj, or follows the "popular" thing, so they can be accepted and supposedly receive the things that society has to give. Well women are no longer one of those things ;)
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
That's one of the most amazing posts you've ever written MW. When you finish the text game ebook you should turn that into an article.
That's one of the most amazing posts you've ever written MW. When you finish the text game ebook you should turn that into an article.
Agreed.
To add on to MW's brilliant post, what are you doing right now that makes you deserve the girls you want?
What value are you providing? I'm gonna venture a guess and say not much, whatsoever. You should come up with a concrete plan on how you can improve your own life, so you can start improving others. Some quick ones off the top of my head are gym, reading, meditation, etc. But these are only treating the symptoms, not the disease, you need to realize what you truly want in life and go after it 100%.
Once you're doing that, you'll be asking yourself Different questions....
"What did I see in THAT girl?"
"Why wouldn't that girl wanna bang ME?"
I wanted to add that the problem is that because everyone has it so easy in today's culture and society, they're never forced to experience enough pain to want to change or improve their results, or they're never pushed hard enough growing up to develop the ability to tackle big problems/scenarios and acquire the toughness that is mandatory for achieving the higher things in life, like women or money. Now neither of these represent a lost cause. This is what we're talking about when we say "anyone is trainable", because the training itself is what develops the person.
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
I wanted to add that the problem is that because everyone has it so easy in today's culture and society, they're never forced to experience enough pain to want to change or improve their results, or they're never pushed hard enough growing up to develop the ability to tackle big problems/scenarios and acquire the toughness that is mandatory for achieving the higher things in life, like women or money. Now neither of these represent a lost cause. This is what we're talking about when we say "anyone is trainable", because the training itself is what develops the person.
check it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_1qY_Bqj5U
That's a really fucking good video. Damn
I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student
- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)
- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male
Yeah think I'm gonna start watching it before the gym or work just to get into that EVOLUTION KILL EVERYTING CONQUER SHIT mindset haha.
Thanks manwhore, awesome post.
To add on to MW's brilliant post, what are you doing right now that makes you deserve the girls you want?What value are you providing? I'm gonna venture a guess and say not much, whatsoever. You should come up with a concrete plan on how you can improve your own life, so you can start improving others. Some quick ones off the top of my head are gym, reading, meditation, etc. But these are only treating the symptoms, not the disease, you need to realize what you truly want in life and go after it 100%.
Once you're doing that, you'll be asking yourself Different questions....
"What did I see in THAT girl?"
"Why wouldn't that girl wanna bang ME?"
Right now, i just graduated and been a bit busy traveling arround to some different places. Ive been training muay thai very hard so i am very fit and healthy. And MW actually i AM going to an asian country to train muay thai in a couple weeks ;). I always have something that im deeply into. Before muay thai i made my own music and had a website which i made some money with at the age of 16. But i mean these sort of stuff make me feel GOOD, but not necessarily have tight game, ya know? In high school social circle i definitly had alotta value, cuz im a crazy guy who is fun to be arround. I used to make my whole class chant my name while i pretend to be some celebrity hah. I made out with the hottest girls in HS but didnt lead enough to bang though. See i also had a few girls that got attached to me because i kissed them and would text me non-stop to the point that i got annoyed. My first bang that moved still tells me she loves me (yeah she is fucking hot).
As i dont go to HS anymore i have to go out and approach now though in order to meet girls. Ive realized its mostly in the club that i dont feel entitled so im gonna try to hit the streets in daytime more often
Dude, you're doing a bunch of cool shit. Talk to girls about this stuff.
When I was training BJJ I would tell girls I could train them so they know what to do in tricky situations. Then, I would show them back mount, a triangle (ultimate position hehe) and some other stuff. This would almost always lead to getting sexual. You need to think outside the box. You have the skills there is just no execution here.
Hahahah thats fucking hilarious man, definitly gonna start showing girls muay thai moves and make up some sexy new ones lol
Manwhore you should post about this if it's not already done.
This is the first thing I notice when I go out. It's amazing when you realize how DEEP it goes in EVERY AREA of your life.
Lol i always feel dumb after making these threads.
A few days ago me and a buddy went to a beach party and the entrance was 40$!!! so we sneaked in for free and started fucking arround. I made out with a few chicks easily and some of them wanted to have afterparty at my place but it was fucking far away though. I tried to find some bush to fuck but there were people every where lol!!
I don't know why i wasn't feeling entitled to chicks but i definitly wasn't leading enough and that's gonna change now for sure
Probably the most valuable thing a guy can learn from a bootcamp/hotseat/any sort of awesome pickup coaching, is how hard they can ACTUALLY go. It's like the gym. It's really easy to chode around and be complacent if you don't have someone emotionally and physically pushing your boundaries all the time.
Yeah i feel you. There was a point when i made out with chicks every time i went but didn't push enough to pull but now it's like "I CAN DO IT AGAIN ITS SO EASY" except i have more knowledge about "game" as compared to when i just went out and overall i'm more happy with my life and i'm gonna try to be more of a closer
Good on ya. I could have closed last weekend but I was being a little bitch.
I'm at the point now to where I can admit it, correct it in the future, and not make stupid excuses.