Dating Coach Explains Why Elliot Rodger Was A Virgin

Seems like a cool dating coach.  

beargrizz wrote:

Seems like a cool dating coach.  

Yeah would fuck 

That's what the fucker gets for having two first names and slaughtering innocent people. 

I think I would stop mentioning "puahate" by name. Fuck 'em, its only more exposure for them

Yeah it was just an observation. I heard it mentioned in this vid and have heard it all over the place lately and can't help but think that even though its negative, all this exposure is bound to be a good thing for them

on the vid.

I mostly agree.

the crucial point here is obviously, and you mentioned that only very shortly  that he would have had to choose you as teacher. implying that he wanted to empty his cup (full of shit beliefs) so that you can fill it with some better stuff. Most people in my experience just don't WANT that. They are either not ready yet ot have past the point of no return long ago.

I too believe that IN PRINCIPLE mostly everyone can get himself into an upward spiral in life. In praxis however this depends on a lot of more variables then having an real good teacher that also serves as credible role model. The latter will help immensily no doubt. But it can only help if someone wants to be helped, and this obviously depends on him or accepting first that he is himself the cause of his problems as you very well pointed out. It always worth trying certainly,

 but I just don't see (yet) how  in a one hour talk you would make someone see himself for real that is already so deeply locked into his own thought-torture dungeon. How make him see his personal role in creating his misery, how to see through his own bullshit?

Regardless of any fruitless outcome speculation, this is a very interesting question. How would you approach this one hour chance to change one misbegotten youth's outlook in life to the better? That#s the real challenge if I'm not mistaken.

I ask because from my (mostly painful) experience, even reasoning with people way in lesser stadiums of denial, however knowing, sympathetic is mostly a waste of energy and time. I mean you need pretty solid dialectics to get them to reason themselves out of their wormhole. And that's for people who are relatively on top of their shit still. My dealings have obviously been in personal relationships, where there was little emotional distance. far from optimal, sure.

I'd really appreciate some thoughts here, maybe some further reading, too if there is any.

What I have realized so far is that giving reasons from my side will only prompt further denial and resistance. been there done that. Thus giving thought impulses without being patronizing roughly is the objective. Asking good questions. But regarding anything more concrete I'm at a loss.

Chris wrote:

on the vid.

I mostly agree.

the crucial point here is obviously, and you mentioned that only very shortly  that he would have had to choose you as teacher. implying that he wanted to empty his cup (full of shit beliefs) so that you can fill it with some better stuff. Most people in my experience just don't WANT that. They are either not ready yet ot have past the point of no return long ago.

I too believe that IN PRINCIPLE mostly everyone can get himself into an upward spiral in life. In praxis however this depends on a lot of more variables then having an real good teacher that also serves as credible role model. The latter will help immensily no doubt. But it can only help if someone wants to be helped, and this obviously depends on him or accepting first that he is himself the cause of his problems as you very well pointed out. It always worth trying certainly,

 but I just don't see (yet) how  in a one hour talk you would make someone see himself for real that is already so deeply locked into his own thought-torture dungeon. How make him see his personal role in creating his misery, how to see through his own bullshit?

Regardless of any fruitless outcome speculation, this is a very interesting question. How would you approach this one hour chance to change one misbegotten youth's outlook in life to the better? That#s the real challenge if I'm not mistaken.

I ask because from my (mostly painful) experience, even reasoning with people way in lesser stadiums of denial, however knowing, sympathetic is mostly a waste of energy and time. I mean you need pretty solid dialectics to get them to reason themselves out of their wormhole. And that's for people who are relatively on top of their shit still. My dealings have obviously been in personal relationships, where there was little emotional distance. far from optimal, sure.

I'd really appreciate some thoughts here, maybe some further reading, too if there is any.

What I have realized so far is that giving reasons from my side will only prompt further denial and resistance. been there done that. Thus giving thought impulses without being patronizing roughly is the objective. Asking good questions. But regarding anything more concrete I'm at a loss.

Have you done coaching with MW.

One of the drills he has you do in the first week completely handells this issue. It's been the most life changing thing I have ever done in my life. 

Chris wrote:

on the vid.

I mostly agree.

the crucial point here is obviously, and you mentioned that only very shortly  that he would have had to choose you as teacher. implying that he wanted to empty his cup (full of shit beliefs) so that you can fill it with some better stuff. Most people in my experience just don't WANT that. They are either not ready yet ot have past the point of no return long ago.

I too believe that IN PRINCIPLE mostly everyone can get himself into an upward spiral in life. In praxis however this depends on a lot of more variables then having an real good teacher that also serves as credible role model. The latter will help immensily no doubt. But it can only help if someone wants to be helped, and this obviously depends on him or accepting first that he is himself the cause of his problems as you very well pointed out. It always worth trying certainly,

 but I just don't see (yet) how  in a one hour talk you would make someone see himself for real that is already so deeply locked into his own thought-torture dungeon. How make him see his personal role in creating his misery, how to see through his own bullshit?

Regardless of any fruitless outcome speculation, this is a very interesting question. How would you approach this one hour chance to change one misbegotten youth's outlook in life to the better? That#s the real challenge if I'm not mistaken.

I ask because from my (mostly painful) experience, even reasoning with people way in lesser stadiums of denial, however knowing, sympathetic is mostly a waste of energy and time. I mean you need pretty solid dialectics to get them to reason themselves out of their wormhole. And that's for people who are relatively on top of their shit still. My dealings have obviously been in personal relationships, where there was little emotional distance. far from optimal, sure.

I'd really appreciate some thoughts here, maybe some further reading, too if there is any.

What I have realized so far is that giving reasons from my side will only prompt further denial and resistance. been there done that. Thus giving thought impulses without being patronizing roughly is the objective. Asking good questions. But regarding anything more concrete I'm at a loss.

Have you done coaching with MW.

One of the drills he has you do in the first week completely handells this issue. It's been the most life changing thing I have ever done in my life. 

Yeah getting coaching with MW has hands down been the best way I have ever spent my money. 

I would recommend like every guy and girl even does at-least 2-3 months with him. The skills you learn will help you for life. 

Yeah getting coaching with MW has hands down been the best way I have ever spent my money. 

I would recommend like every guy and girl even does at-least 2-3 months with him. The skills you learn will help you for life.