But...I'm not creepy?!

Why didn't you go for the meet up? Lol idk why guys ask for critiques so often and never even ask to hang out. That's the best indicator you can use to understand if your game is solid her saying yes or no to meeting you out

yo FUCK THIS SHIT

This girl was purposely tryna mess with you- that's not cool. Whether her friend said that shit or not is irrelevant - she's being a fuckin cunt. She knows exactly what she's doing.

Honestly - I would stop talking to this girl immeidately. 

G-Money, I didn't ask her for a meet up because the last time we talked prob the night before then she said she couldn't hang out with me because it'd 100% lead to a "thing" and she can't handle that right now beacuse she's going through a rough time. Then she said I always ask every time we talk to hang out and she just says how it is each time, so I told her I'd drop it and not mention it. Then she messaged me the following day after I number closed her best friend. Otherwise, I woulda asked her to chill again, she said she wants too but can't.. loool whatever that means. We already hooked up once, no sex but fooling around. Now it's just that shit she throws at me.

pottedflowers - DUDE,

I thought the exact same thing. I was like "wtf, she never messages first.." I don't know exactly what she was trying to do but it was definitely random. Maybe jealousy? I do know that if her friend thought I was creepy, she wouldn't reply to me at all, regardless of what her responses were or how long they were...Girls don't reply to creepy guys lol...

I haven't talked to that girl since she blatantly ignored my last text, pretty much went radio silent/freeze out on her. She also hasn't tried to contact me or snapchat me like she usually does.... Maybe she's annoyed or the attraction died. I dunno.

I also haven't bothered talking to her friend after that. Cause I just dropped a "Have a nice day" mid-convo and bounced. Too bad they were both hot.... So frustrating. She was being rude as fuuuuck.

You pussy bitch. 

So you stopped messaging them both? She wins, you're a fucking loser. And you fell for her frame IMMEDIATELY. Go find a gloryhole I feel you are more suited to such. 

Just kidding, but stop being a bitch. I can't believe you fell into that so quickly. Dude you put a girl in her fucking place. 

I totally realized it now after reading Pottedflowers post, I can't just randomly message them now, I think I just fucked up all the attraction .... 

I just had a frame light bulb go on

Not sure whatcha mean bud?

Pretty sure this is a dead end though..

Yeah, would be sweet if you could elaborate on whatcha mean : )

Just as an FYI- take my convo with a grain of salt, because I've already fucked this girl a lot, and she's obviously already really into me. So in that respect, I have a lot of leverage, especially compared to a girl who I haven't already fucked. 

Yeah I suppose your right, haven't had sex with her yet just hooked up with her and did stuff. Might be pointless even though I'd like to engage! Need to go get some new leads

Hmm, yeah - I think it's still important to address these kinds of  issues with women (whether you've fucked em' or not), but the way you handle it might just have to be different. 

Like if she's not emotionally invested in you - telling her there's an issue, and then not responding for a couple days probably isn't going to compell her to change. She's just not that invested in you yet (but if you have fucked her - this kinda thing can work great) - basically the short of it is that for any sort of "take-away" to work properly, you need a certain level of investment from her. 

So yeah, I don't really have an answer for this type of situation - infact, I still have difficulty finding ways to address this stuff with girls who aren't that invested in me yet. 

I think what I should do is try and bait her and get her to chase/invest more. By flipping the power. Cause I clearly have none atm, then get her out and sleep with her to have that leverage.

I'll shoot her a re-engagement text right now, something along the lines of "How's my 3rd fav brat doing?"

I love that opener, I'll update you guys if I get stuck or whatever

Updated convo

Me: Hey, how's my 3rd favorite brat doing? :P
Her: Let's see, sick again so I guess I'm okay.
Me: I feel like I'll text you one day and the phone company will message me back saying you died.. LOL
Her: OH MY GOD
Her: Hahaha what the hell
Her: It's a sore throat I don't think I'm dying :p
Me: Maybe it's Mono, stop sticking your tongue in everyone's mouth, (Her Name)! ;)
Her: Good one
Me: That tummy must be feelin' better?
Her: A little
Me: Better than nothin'! What are you up too this week? Aside from slaving away at that prison :p
Her: Lol. I close there every day this week :p
Her: And other then that tryna feel better. And idk
Me: With a schedule like that, they might as well shackle you to the door :p
Her: Lol
Me: How have you been holdin' up? I haven't had a chance to ask
Her: I'm good.
Me: Awesome! I can go if you want, you don't have to talk to me, it's cool
Her: I'm still in bed lol not really in a talkative mood
Her: Got like 0 sleep lastnight

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I haven't replied and I'm not sure how to...should I just not reply at this point?

You handle that shit clearly better. Wait the input of Flower and MW.

Thanks man, I hope I did also, my last reply was "Sucks to suck :p you're usually out like a light, my sleep was un-fucking-real" she did not reply, I feel like she's hung up on her ex, she's 2-3 months out of s relationship but whatever. My last text wasn't chodey, I don't think

I assume you are in player mode so don't forget to text and interact with other girls during the week.

I sense some faggotness here "I feel like she's hung up on her ex, she's 2-3 months out of s relationship but whatever. My last text wasn't chodey, I don't think"

In your mind it should be

"If this girl don't comply they are f a c t u a l l y 10 other girls this weekend who will"

Well yeah I agree, she's actually this damn One-itis I have.

I been number-closing like mental trying to build abundance and going for some leads

Ok you guys are fucking crazy for not having recognized this yet. Haven't you been reading Patrick.Bateman's stuff? Derrrrrrrp. That's ALL he fucking does! Read his last 20 posts. It's all the same, look at the subtleties going on, and weep. 

oh actually yeah that's exactly how you'd deal with this. duh

That's not right dude. That's so robotic. People are not fucking legos 

Potted I was responding to this post and the posts right before it:

http://manwhore.org/forum/content/butim-not-creepy#comment-90618

I still have to read through the rest of this thread so there might be new context.. 

Obviously realize this isn't a cure for human relationships, but in the beginning during these text interactions yes you want to be doing stuff like that. It's a smart bomb

But yeah at the same time you're right.

;) 

Yeah, I figured that's what you were responding to. 

Naw I would never say something like that to a girl I was interested in. Maybe this is a remnant personal prejudice of mine but I never talk about hooking up with other dudes to a chick I'm interested in. Not cool, never seen it be productive. And seems to go contrary to the point of what her and I are playing around at together. Am I wrong on that? I don't think so.. 

oh fuck no dude. 

I'm pretty sure if a girl I'm into mentions another dude I either stop paying attention entirely, or just change the subject immediately. But that' s just cause I don't like talkin bout random dudes in my spare time

Lol. 

I'd be like.. "I'm just kidding about mono I know you're a virgin. That's good the world out there is dangerous for girls like you"

Okay I'll remember that for the future, I was just pulling her leg but it's clear she didn't like that lol. Should I re-engage in a few days or would it be wiser to drop this chick? I'm not sure how to go about it as it's been a while and I'm 100% sure she's still hung up on her ex. Which is why whe won't come out and see me and have a "thing", she ain't ready.