Skip to Content
Pickup Coaching
-->
23 replies [Last post]
bonobo's picture
Offline
Joined: 11/03/2016

So I checked out Okcupid recently and got this chicks number. 
 
I had a lame meetup attempt before (even worse than the current one...). It's all in Whatsapp.
 


Me: sup rainbow bite, how's the weekend goin'  (re-engagement after 1-2 days of silence)
Her: Hey, how are you?
Me: we'll make the town unsafe with a Slovenian buddy
Her: Lazy weekend indeed!
Her: Hahaha what do you mean?
Me: we'll just head out and do our things haha ( so lame... but I saw she was typing, so I wanted a rather continues chat)
Her: Now?
Her: What are you going to do
Me: still planning, he's also limited on time.
Me: meet me for an icecream before (yeah, not ideal I know - we talked about ice cream before, but I didn't seed properly)
1 day later
Me: I'm so over this whole 'morning' thing. Soon everyone will start waking up at 2pm like me
Her: Hahaa
Her: I woke.late also today
Her: How are you?
Me: I was to go to XXXX (festival) with a buddy, but he's not been online for a while, hope he's still got his kidneys lol
few hours later:
Her: Hahhhha
Her: Party boys!
next day (Monday):
Me: (party emojis) ya, need to catch up on work now.
Me: how are your exams coming together? or Netflix is the one winning :P
Her: Hahaaa i am done with exams just waiting for the thesis defense
Her: It will be next month
Me: Great, congrats. We should totally celebrate that! (now I wanted to do a bit more proper seeding, date setup)
Me: How is your thesis, did you write about the unicorn stag party's economic boost effect in {{mycity}} or sth
Her: You should treat me for dinner hahahha
Me: Actually have a chicken in the oven already, you can handle spices?
Her: I am from Indonesia, my food is too spicy
Me: I know pumpkin, just playing with you ;)
Me: I barely remember to salt my food lol
2 hours later:
Me: Damn, I ate so much, the sweet potato was totally worth it thou. wyd

that was yesterday

Ok, clearly I didn't handle her sugar daddy message properly (among others). At that point, she went silent 3 times already (2x at meetup attempts). 

__________________

It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great (MW)
I don’t care if she thinks we’re meeting up for a tea party, we’z gonna bang. (MW)
Pick Your Own Damn Sacrifice (Jordan Peterson)

Offline
Joined: 01/18/2012
Sooo.. she's a law intern

Sooo.. she's a law intern you're a party boy that doesn't salt his chicken.. what could possibly go wrong? 

__________________

I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student

- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)

- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male

Tap Or Click For Personal Coaching Information

Offline
Joined: 05/20/2018
You fucked up at : “Still

You fucked up at : “Still planning” ALWAYS have a set plan! It doesn’t need to be grandiose. Just have something to do or a place to go.

“Still planning” = “idk let’s make YOU the event/activity” total turn off.

Even so she still showed some interest after. You still didn’t extract her from OKcupid to face to face.

Honestly, I think you are overgaming here. I don’t mean like too much game. I mean too much bullshit and not enough effective and efficient moves. When she said the “treat me for dinner thing” it was a joke, I would have flipped it like “Maybe in a month when you finish ur stuff. For now I’m grabbing a drink or two. Come with” 

Boom.

Logistical compliance is always the end goal. Always be closing and I know from ur other text posts u like to add steps to the close like “let’s talk on WhatsApp” and you give them cute excuses and shit that hold no weight like “let’s get away from tinder land” or whatever the fuck. Dude, you gotta take the SHORTEST possible route from A  to B. The less you can get away with doing the better. The less moves but that make the most sense. 

Do less and close more. And close with less self imposed obstacles. This means stop making EXCUSES like getting them on WhatsApp. You can give them reasons and stuff to meet up but making excuses to jump from one app to another communicates that you’ll be a little girl in bed. That’s some pussy shit. Just tell them to give you their number. Don’t ask. Direct them. 

NOTE: I KNOW ur already talking with her in whatsapp but just look at the principles outlined! 

”Maybe. In a month when ur done with ur stuff and earned it :) For now drinks will have to do. Give me ur #” 

Or...if you wanna play it safe:

“Maybe. In a month when ur done with ur stuff and earned it :) For now drinks will have to do. I’m heading over to this great little spot I know. Good times”

And you wait for her replies and objections etc etc and you resolve those accordingly.

I like the first one. I use things like that all the time. If she says replies, even if it’s “no” I still have a shot. The second one I use also and it’s good because it’s NOT a proposal or proposition that she can reject or accept. You’re just telling her what ur doing and assuming she’s coming along.

You gotta kinda think your way into her head. She’s jokingly asking for dinner in the future. This means she’s still open to meet but on HER TERMS because you fucked up before. Ok, if she wants that dinner she’s gonna have to meet up for drinks FIRST! You also take away her right to set the terms and have it her way but also leave open a possibility for dinner in the future, but ONLY if she meets your standards (by earning it). On the surface ur talking about her doing well in school and you rewarding her with 

Dinner if she does well or whatever. That’s EXACTLY what SHE “proposed” to you in that joke anyway! So instead of going against it, you go with it but you raise a barrier to it and now she feels as if she should go for drinks with you in order to get the dinner. Then you called her to action in a dominant, masculine way. She would never guess you would pull this shit. The aim IS to get the number but she can always fall back on “Wait where are we getting drinks” or “what time” and you better have that all ready! The point is that she complies here somehow and that you lead her to the logistical compliance. 

My text game isn’t world class but the one thing I do right is EVERYTHING I say is for a reason. You can’t be talking just to talk. Take the shortest route from A to B by optimizing EVERY line you spit out. Leaving things to chance is not acceptable. Even if my text game is boring and only consists of dry content, good reframes, compliments and innuendos, it works sometimes because it triggers compliance! 

bonobo's picture
Offline
Joined: 11/03/2016
I don't think it's

I don't think it's directionless but yeah there is something in the 'she has to earn it' part. When I re-engage I need to qualify her a bit more as I see now. She seems to be comfy netflixer so that's definitely something I can bring up. 

__________________

It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great (MW)
I don’t care if she thinks we’re meeting up for a tea party, we’z gonna bang. (MW)
Pick Your Own Damn Sacrifice (Jordan Peterson)

Offline
Joined: 01/18/2012
Infinite wrote: You fucked up

Infinite wrote:
You fucked up at : “Still planning” ALWAYS have a set plan! It doesn’t need to be grandiose. Just have something to do or a place to go.

“Still planning” = “idk let’s make YOU the event/activity” total turn off.

Even so she still showed some interest after. You still didn’t extract her from OKcupid to face to face.

Honestly, I think you are overgaming here. I don’t mean like too much game. I mean too much bullshit and not enough effective and efficient moves. When she said the “treat me for dinner thing” it was a joke, I would have flipped it like “Maybe in a month when you finish ur stuff. For now I’m grabbing a drink or two. Come with” 

Boom.

Logistical compliance is always the end goal. Always be closing and I know from ur other text posts u like to add steps to the close like “let’s talk on WhatsApp” and you give them cute excuses and shit that hold no weight like “let’s get away from tinder land” or whatever the fuck. Dude, you gotta take the SHORTEST possible route from A  to B. The less you can get away with doing the better. The less moves but that make the most sense. 

Do less and close more. And close with less self imposed obstacles. This means stop making EXCUSES like getting them on WhatsApp. You can give them reasons and stuff to meet up but making excuses to jump from one app to another communicates that you’ll be a little girl in bed. That’s some pussy shit. Just tell them to give you their number. Don’t ask. Direct them. 

Right.

__________________

I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student

- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)

- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male

Tap Or Click For Personal Coaching Information

Offline
Joined: 01/18/2012
Dude she's going silent

Dude she's going silent because she's talking about her defense thesis or what not and you're talking about random ass partyboy nonsense. You ain't even a fuckboy yet in her mind. That's causing the concern here. You're a successful entrepreneur, can't you raise the emotional vernacular up in here a bit? Be smart with a dick

__________________

I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student

- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)

- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male

Tap Or Click For Personal Coaching Information

Offline
Joined: 01/18/2012
What's the context here..

What's the context here.. what does she do? What part of the world you in now? Are you back in Germany? 

__________________

I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student

- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)

- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male

Tap Or Click For Personal Coaching Information

bonobo's picture
Offline
Joined: 11/03/2016
Manwhore wrote: Dude she's

Manwhore wrote:
Dude she's going silent because she's talking about her defense thesis or what not and you're talking about random ass partyboy nonsense. You ain't even a fuckboy yet in her mind. That's causing the concern here. You're a successful entrepreneur, can't you raise the emotional vernacular up in here a bit? Be smart with a dick

ah interesting, so she was testing me if I have a normal life of some sort by the dinner thing? then I let her know I can't even salt my chicken lol 

She's been living in Europe for a while, it's her final year at tourism. 

Thanks. 

__________________

It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great (MW)
I don’t care if she thinks we’re meeting up for a tea party, we’z gonna bang. (MW)
Pick Your Own Damn Sacrifice (Jordan Peterson)

Offline
Joined: 01/18/2012
What is this thesis defense

What is this thesis defense thing she's talking about? 

__________________

I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student

- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)

- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male

Tap Or Click For Personal Coaching Information

bonobo's picture
Offline
Joined: 11/03/2016
At some unis, it's not enough

At some unis, it's not enough to just write your thesis when you finish your studies but have to 'defend' it as well. It's like a heavy exam I guess where some profs are asking about the thesis. 

__________________

It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great (MW)
I don’t care if she thinks we’re meeting up for a tea party, we’z gonna bang. (MW)
Pick Your Own Damn Sacrifice (Jordan Peterson)

bonobo's picture
Offline
Joined: 11/03/2016
Me: Checking out new offices

Me: Checking out new offices today, I could pass the XY (a beautiful building) on my daily commute. So tempting...

Her: Hi how are you?

Me: I just arrived from Monaco

Me: Great, lots of work.. still making some time to enjoy the sunshine I was badly lacking the last few week

Me: Noice. It's great place for paragliding

4 hours later:

Me: how much did you lose in the casino thou?  hope you're not selling lemonade on the street now :P

I usually don't do extra messages a bit later but she just stops texting and I thought at least I have some momentum during the day. That was probably it with her tho

__________________

It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great (MW)
I don’t care if she thinks we’re meeting up for a tea party, we’z gonna bang. (MW)
Pick Your Own Damn Sacrifice (Jordan Peterson)

Buddhagames's picture
Offline
Joined: 01/31/2012
Haha wait I literally had a

Haha wait I literally had a test thread posted with a chick who was like a week away from graduated from Berkeley law and she was sexting me while studying. Did you check that out lol?

__________________

It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great- Manwhore

"Apart from the pulling and hauling stands what I am, Stands amused, complacent, compassionating, idle, unitary, Looks down, is erect, or bends an arm on an impalpable certain rest, Looking with side-curved head curious what will come next, Both in and out of the game and watching and wondering at it."

bonobo's picture
Offline
Joined: 11/03/2016
ya, that's a stellar work.

ya, that's a stellar work. Actually, had my best online to date convo from it recently. I borrowed the 'ima break in and free u up from uni' theme. Was smooth af. Then I magically forgot I have a dick on the date. durr. 

This chick has not even got much to study. She tells me she's watching Netflix then stops texting. I think I'll drop a voice message in a few days. 

__________________

It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great (MW)
I don’t care if she thinks we’re meeting up for a tea party, we’z gonna bang. (MW)
Pick Your Own Damn Sacrifice (Jordan Peterson)

Offline
Joined: 01/18/2012
Buddha got link? Missed this

Buddha got link? Missed this one but sounds legit.

Yeah Bonobo why would we write you texts if you're just going to forget you have a dick on the date? Then act all limp-wristed with this girl initially, but want our help recovering over text after the fact? I mean the simple problem here is she's just not attracted to you anymore. Which is clearly your fault. So you have to inject that back in here. But if you forget you have a dick when the girl's right in front of you, I don't know how you're going to figure out how to do that over text. :\

__________________

I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student

- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)

- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male

Tap Or Click For Personal Coaching Information

bonobo's picture
Offline
Joined: 11/03/2016
http://manwhore.org/forum/con
__________________

It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great (MW)
I don’t care if she thinks we’re meeting up for a tea party, we’z gonna bang. (MW)
Pick Your Own Damn Sacrifice (Jordan Peterson)

bonobo's picture
Offline
Joined: 11/03/2016
ya, my texting mistakes are

ya, my texting mistakes are mostly just manifestations of other things. I need to work on the real issue then texting will improve as well as I see it now. 

It just helps me create intimate situations with girls. So in that regard, that text convo was a success. I took her to my place which is the exact part I really need to improve. 

LIke if you want to get a job, and suck at interviews, you need to have real interviews. So it doesn't hurt to get better at getting invited to those interviews. It's all connected but there are different elements to it. So it's not in vain to go to the interview even though you might not get the job. Of course, you should aim it and do everything to make it happen even in the preparations.

All these texting threads are like improved field report analyses.

A) it's very objective, so it's hard to BS

B) there's still future potential in most of them.

But even if one won't get the girl out, still a lot of learning in there. 

So yeah, I don't wait for you to magically fix up my fucked up conversations. If I can (or anyone) learn a bit each time and make fewer mistakes with the next chick it's already worth it imo. And if the convo goes to the right direction because of the comments, that's beautiful. Countless examples on the forum for that. 

PS: I also see that the way I wrote this up is somewhat part of the problem itself

__________________

It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great (MW)
I don’t care if she thinks we’re meeting up for a tea party, we’z gonna bang. (MW)
Pick Your Own Damn Sacrifice (Jordan Peterson)

Offline
Joined: 05/20/2018
Lol bro ur playing not to

Lol bro ur playing not to lose. Learn to take calculated risks champ 

Offline
Joined: 01/18/2012
This is one of the more

This is one of the more piteable cop-outs I've ever seen. Presumptuous of you too to think we'd help you write texts just so you can show up and be a faggot. Not a good look, buddy

bonobo wrote:
ya, my texting mistakes are mostly just manifestations of other things. I need to work on the real issue then texting will improve as well as I see it now. 

It just helps me create intimate situations with girls. So in that regard, that text convo was a success. I took her to my place which is the exact part I really need to improve. 

__________________

I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student

- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)

- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male

Tap Or Click For Personal Coaching Information

bonobo's picture
Offline
Joined: 11/03/2016
It's not black and white. You

It's not black and white. You don't read students' write-ups and say they shouldn't go out anymore bc they fuck it up anyways. Of course, it's annoying to be close and screw things up. You know it's never consciously my intention to pussy out. I was aiming to shoot some porn and have the neighbors remember my name forever. 

And I got tremendous help from the forum/blog. I can directly attribute my first ONS with a hot stripper, or online texting to sex to it. And it took quite a few failures to get there. More than I'm willing to admit lol. About the latter, you said the issue was still present but I got the lay, nonetheless. In my mind, it was a great experience of being more dominant and it helped me create a few other sexy times. 

And of course, you guys are right. I need to step up more and win. It shouldn't be practice time anymore lol. Geeze. Like how can I fuck up in the finish line like that. That's really not deserving help. 

And I really love how you make/inspire everyone to be more. Shitty to good, good to great, great to stellar. I've wanted to write a short post on it for a while anyway, I'll post it in a bit. 

__________________

It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great (MW)
I don’t care if she thinks we’re meeting up for a tea party, we’z gonna bang. (MW)
Pick Your Own Damn Sacrifice (Jordan Peterson)

Buddhagames's picture
Offline
Joined: 01/31/2012
@manwhore  http://manwhore.or
__________________

It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great- Manwhore

"Apart from the pulling and hauling stands what I am, Stands amused, complacent, compassionating, idle, unitary, Looks down, is erect, or bends an arm on an impalpable certain rest, Looking with side-curved head curious what will come next, Both in and out of the game and watching and wondering at it."

Offline
Joined: 01/18/2012
Ah, 'k. So you were

Ah, 'k. So you were self-diagnosing ;). What happened? 

__________________

I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student

- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)

- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male

Tap Or Click For Personal Coaching Information

Offline
Joined: 01/18/2012
Bonobo look how smart and

Bonobo look how smart and fucking sexy that convo is. Got dam, beaver

Buddhagames wrote:
@manwhore 

http://manwhore.org/forum/content/alright-lets-get-some-text-game-threads-and-online-convo-threads-going-post-your-convos-stan#comment-104764

__________________

I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student

- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)

- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male

Tap Or Click For Personal Coaching Information

bonobo's picture
Offline
Joined: 11/03/2016
Manwhore wrote:Ah, 'k. So

Manwhore wrote:
Ah, 'k. So you were self-diagnosing ;). What happened? 

tbh not sure what are you referring here to

__________________

It's Just Something You Have To Do If You Want To Be Great (MW)
I don’t care if she thinks we’re meeting up for a tea party, we’z gonna bang. (MW)
Pick Your Own Damn Sacrifice (Jordan Peterson)

Offline
Joined: 01/18/2012
I just mean that you'd

I just mean that you'd already seen the situation clearly and were evidencing the same righteous indignation. ;) My bad

__________________

I go in and I'm crisp, clean and my vocals are fucking coming out like music. - Anonymous MW student

- Autismus Terminus Finis (Root Cause/Cure of Autism Epidemic)

- Called Off My Wedding & Other Turn Tail Signs Of The American Male

Tap Or Click For Personal Coaching Information