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TonightX4-Great Night: Plenty of observations//Proper execution of the gameplan and blasting away sticking points

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Okay so tonight had positives and negatives and then some things that just kind of... are what they are.

So I was a little more nervous today than yesterday. Idk why, it wasn't a huge deal and I actually ended up pushing through a lot of barriers that I discussed in previous posts. And I also executed the game plan (which I'll discuss later) very well.

So I get there and I'm feeling some nerves so I hit up a "warmup" girl. Really cute blondie from paris who actually just got into town tonight.

I get to the top of the stairs and do a little scan of the environment and I'm checking for any girls that I find attractive and she instantly pops out at me so I go up and grab her hand and say, "hey"... I was speaking VERY loudly but since she's foreign and the music was super loud, she couldn't understand me so she asked "what" like 4 times but I kept her from giving up by maintaining eye contact the whole time... As soon as she hears me and the "what" shit is over I tell her I forgive her and then she's like, "My names xxx" and I'm like, that was the name of my adorable dog (fact) she gets playfully offended and is kind of laughing so I'm like, "awww give me a hug" and I give her a massive hug but she's kind of resistant and does this like, 'noo what's hapening" thing but I just plow through it and give her the hug and then let her go and we keep talking.

We're both having problems hearing so I tell her, "come with me downstairs so we can grab a drink and talk" she kinda looks over at her friends and then back at me and I got the locked on eye contact but she's like, "I can't ... My friends..." and I'm just like, "Yeah it's cool we'll just talk for a bit" and so she agrees and tells her friends she's going downstairs with me. For some reasons I still feel slightly tense but it doesn't mater I'm just making sure to do what I can with my body language and eye contact so it's all good. I don't need state to approach.

So I take her downstairs and I get off the stairs before her, turn around and put my hands out and she grabs them and I guide her down, she lets go of my hands at the bottom of the stairs and we walk over and grab seats at the bar and she says she doesn't want anything more to drink and I just order a water and tip the bartender, so what ensues is over an hour of conversation but I was committed to staying in set and not bailing like I have been in the past...

I think my most natural style is that whole, "time is your ally" thing which is cool cause I always end up in very long, very solid sets but it can also be a little annoying cause I don't get that insane instant attraction... But trust me it builds.

So I just keep the eye contact on point and shoot the shit. I don't remember much of the verbals but there wasn't really anything of note... Oh at one point I get some dude next to us to take a picture of us and then I tell her to text it to me... So she takes my number but it turns out her phone can't send pics cause she just got it... So I take her phone and just text myself, "hey sexy" from it. We joke about this a bit and continue to talk for a while...

At this point I start thinking, "Okay I have to escalate.. .that's the gameplan" so I grab her stool and pull it closer to mine and put my arm around her.. sall good. So then another like 10 minutes of convo and she goes to the bathroom and I tell her I'll watch her drink and I end up shootin the shit with the bartender (cool dude) while she's gone.

She comes back and moves the stool away from mine, but it doesn't phase me at all. I just keep talking and vibing and after another like 10 minutes of convo, again I think, "Okay, the gameplan- escalate or lead but do one of those" so I just say FUCK IT and I have no clue if she's that into me but I just know I have to escalate so I go in for the makeout and it's on!

We makeout a bit and then I pull back.. shoot more shit... makeout.. shoot more shit... okay so now I'm thinking, "I've escalated, next step lead" so I stand up and grab her hand and lead her back up the stairs and at this point the attraction is super on and comfort//rapport has already been established so this is just a SUPER SOLID set.

Oh- also, so it's important to note that I used the makeout, PURELY as a tool for escalation. I had already escalated physically with putting my arm around her and shit and there just wasn't that much sexual tension, so I actually used the makeout to CREATE sexual tension, as opposed to what happens most of the time, which is that the makeout releases the tension.

Anyway- head upstairs and I sit down and I guide her to my lap and she straddles me and starts shakin her ass and I'm grabbin her ass and letting her dance on me. Oh, also her friends had come up and told her they were all leaving in like 10 minutes so she kept telling me, "okay I have to leave in 5" and kept giving me time updates... I think she may have wanted me to somehow take responsibility from her and get her to stay but I just didn't know how...

Anyway- at one poitn she gets in my ear and is like, "We'll see if you even text me".. like she's worried I won't. and I'm just like, "I'm gonna prove you wrong" and she's like, "We'll see"

So then I decide to keep leading her. So I grab her hand and take her back downstairs to the bar and we sit and shoot the shit and makeout a bit and I'm grabbin all over, gropin the titties etc..

So escalation was there... rapport was there... comfort was there (maybe- ooo this was missing!) attraction was there.. leading was there

I was very pleased with how I executed the gameplan with this gal. So anyway- her friends come down and say they are leaving and she tells me she has to leave, so I say, "okay" and give her a kiss goodbye.

She texts me like 20 minutes later saying, "Have a good night!". I text her back a smiley face.

So then I head to the bathroom cause I gotta take a fuckin piss. Take a piss and head back upstairs and I'm laughing like, "well fuck... still gotta get my approaches in! lol"

So I look around and there is really nothing around so I walk outside and chill for a bit and see two girls smoking. Roll up on them and ask for a cig... she gives it to me and I'm just like, "actually, I just wanted to talk to you guys" (weak as fuck.. I know lmao)... anyway- we talk for like 5 or 10 minutes but there isn't much attraction at all... and they head inside and i lose them.

So then as I'm walking inside I see three girls talking with this dude sitting down and I go in and pull out one of them and I grab her hand and give her bomb eye contact and I'm just like, "Hey" and she starts laughing cause she's nervous nad is like, "Hey".. "What's your name" so I tell her my name and she keeps laughing and i swear to god, here we go again, she's like, "Omg you're so from california" and I'm like, "yeah.. how'd you know" and she's like, "The necklace.. that and you look the part" .. so we talk for a bit more and she's just like nervous and then like grabs her friends hand who is talking to the dude and is like, "xxx this is BG! Guess where he's from!" so her friend guesses switzerland...

I tell her, "No.. california" and she's like, "What" and I'm like "california" and she's like, "What" ... now mind you it's not loud at all and I'm very much speaking loud so I look back at the first girl and I'm like, "Is there something wrong with your friend" ... I just knew something was off. She doesn't know what to say to me because she's girl coding her friend (telling her I'm actually a cool guy and not to fuck with me) so the other girl eventually is just like, "Whatever, I don't even care" so I turn back to the first girl and keep talking and I"m like, 'What's up with your friend, she was being weird" and she kinda just like shrugs and is almost like embarrassed about what her friend did.

So then, the other girl comes back into the picture and walks around in front of me and is smiling and like, "Wait what's your name again" and then is like, "I was just fucking around earlier" and I'm like, "oh okay, yeah I didn't really care, I just kinda thought you were a retard" and she starts laughing (my back is to the dude and I'm about 8 feet away from him) so now it's me with my back to the dude and slightly away from him with the two girls in front of me.. their third friend who was the only one left talking to the dude then comes over and is like, "Wait what's your name.. you're from cali right" so in a matter of like 40 seconds, I had stolen every single girl from the dude without speaking a word to the guy, "except when the first girl very briefly introduced us" and with hardly saying anything to the girls... this was kinda interesting...

Anyway- the first girl chimes back in and is like, "That other guy is calling you xxx" (He was trying to tool me by calling me a fake name) and I just look at her and I'm like, "yeah I don't care" and then keep talking to her friend...Okay, so I thought this was a GREAT way to handle this particular AMOG because he was ALREADY out of the picture... they were standing in front of me and my back was to him, he was gone, he didn't matter anymore, so there was no point in caring, no point in engaging with whatever he was doing in any way, it truly didn't matter and I truly didn't care... so I just very quickly said, "Yeah I don't care" and then quickly went back to what I was doing... basically just putting the nail of his coffin of forgottenness. If I had gotten pissed or annoyed and turned around and engaged him in any way, I would have been bringing him back into the conversation.. which is pointless.. he was already gone.


This really gets to her and she starts working for my attention.

But the other girl I'm talking to is way hotter so I just go with her.

She tells me how they just come to this bar to make fun of the guys and I laugh and I'm like, "except me" and give her serious eye contact and then I'm like, "Because I'm awesome" and she can't help but nod... "Attraction is NOT a choice" those are some TRUE fucking words right there... that's what was so confusing to these girls.. they did not come to this bar to get picked up, they came to make fun of guys and have a girl night... but then they all somehow found themselves attracted to me and couldn't figure out what was going on

So then the one girl is like, "Okay we're leaving" so I go up to the girl who initially was trying to fuck with me and I talk for just like another minute or two and then I'm like, "give me digits" and she's like, "Okay I'll give you my business card" and I look at her with eye contact and I'm like, "NO... I want your phone number" and she gives it to me. I text her, "-BG- the only guy at xxxbar you didn't make fun of"

And she responded later on with, "Is there sucha thing? haha hi nice to meet you"

So that was pretty cool. It was like literally the entire group just swarmed me and left the other dude. I didn't even really do anything... they all just like swarmed with questions like, "Where are you from, what's your name, omg cali, omg your necklace, omg cali, omg what's your name again" lmao

And I look back and the other dude is literally sitting alone now... kinda felt bad

So they leave and I head upstairs and approach one girl but it's awkward cause her back is to me and i try to grab her hand but miss lmao... so she ends up rejecting me pretty hard

Then I walk to the dance floor and some fatty wants me but I just stare her down and shake my head lmao... I'm kinda a dick..

Anyway- head to the back and see this fucking HOTTY in a red dress and just point at her... absolutely no go, she totally just ignores me. I stick around... she ignores me... I stick around... she ignores me.. their dude friend is laughing (I don't care) I grab one of their friends hands and she says something but I can't hear and then like goes away...

I head down and leave..

All approaches that I committed to were done.

I also executed the gameplan that I had set out VERY well.

I escalated and I led... And it seems as if both numbers are responding, so that's always a plus.

I also am beginning to approach groups of girls and guys and actually pulled all the girls away from that one dude... so lots of positives tonight and just overal executing the gameplan and focusing on my sticking points

I actually didn't feel nearly as "in state" as I did last night but was able to push and do things that I wasn't doing last night.. so that is really cool. State is a bonus, but I can do it all without state. Just an understanding of what needs to be done and then doing it.

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@buddhagames:

It's awesome cause I'm getting to the point where I can just approach. No big deal, at all. I can approach a lot and I'm starting to truly not care about rejection. Like it just doesn't matter. I'm sure the nerves will settle down as I continue my challenge.

One thing that I said a while ago I wanted to become was an approach machine, and this challenge is going to do just that : )

I'm accomplishing everything I set my mind to.. it's happening. I'm executing the gameplan, keeping my commitments to myself and learning a lot. This is all good. Results don't matter right now. Just stick to what I need to be doing, the rest will fall into place over time.
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@buddhagames:

Damn, you're getting much better yo.

I like what you said about using the makeout to CREATE sexual tension. I'm a massive pussy when i don't sense any sexual tension, like we're comfortable with each other but she's not giving me any IOI's. I freak out, and don't escalate like i should - same thing happened last night with this really cute chick from school, my friends left me to walk her home after this prom thing, she was by herself, i just assumed she would leap into my arms or be instantly attracted to me cause it was that time of the night and i thought shit was gonna go down. Point is...don't assume anything; being chill has killed SO many sets for me, cause i want permission to do something. That's why i like what you did, you stuck to the programme, and executed. Your only IOI should be that she's in your presence, talking to you...i hate forgetting the fundamentals lol

anyway, well done man.
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@buddhagames:
@buddhagames:
First off. I think it's really cool you're doing this, I'm thinking about starting the same thing actually. Really great man. Keep it up. I could give you some pointers about what I think you should do/should've done but honestly I think you know exactly what you're doing "right" vs. "wrong".

Gj! Big props.

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Re: approaching
Gogo;763.5736;130 wrote:
@buddhagames: I like what you said about using the makeout to CREATE sexual tension. I'm a massive pussy when i don't sense any sexual tension, like we're comfortable with each other but she's not giving me any IOI's. I freak out, and don't escalate like i should


Yeah dude, what's funny is that when I was drunk I never would escalate or go in for a makeout if I didn't think a chick was into me but idk what's happening to me, but now it's sorta just like I know what needs to be done and so I do it- I don't care about rejection, I just knew I had to escalate and that the makeout was the best way to do it at the time so I did it, without questioning whether she would reject me. Becaues I knew even if she did reject me, it was, at the very least, going to be showing interest and that I'm attracted to her. I'm starting to really learn that I don't need IOI's which is something that is COMPLETELY new to me.
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Wonder;763.5738;181 wrote:
@buddhagames: I could give you some pointers about what I think you should do/should've done but honestly I think you know exactly what you're doing "right" vs. "wrong".


Dude- I'd LOVE your pointeres. I have no issues taking advice, in fact, it's why I post this stuff... even if I do know whatever you would tell me, it's great to hear it from others, I have no ego involved in this man. My only goal is to improve and get better so I want your advice for sure.
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Oh- another thing... I don't come across like a "player" at ALL... haha like those girls who went to the bar to make fun of everyone or wtvr... they knew that most of the guys at this particular bar are into pickup (it's true.. SO MANY aspring POOAHS...) but as soon as I told em, "Yeah I just moved here, so I'm going out and meeting people"

They completely bought into it and just were not thinking about me as a "plaer" or "pooah" at ALL.. they were like, 'OHHHH... You should hit up blah blah blah bar as well.. it's really good" etc. etc.
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Re: approaching
Gogo;763.5736;130 wrote:
@buddhagames:I like what you said about using the makeout to CREATE sexual tension


Yeah man, this was actually kind of an epiphany for me. Like makeouts can be right and wrong to use in certain situations. It's not any different from, say, using the claw or giving a girl a hug, it's simply a way to escalate; however, it is different because it can also CREATE and DESTROY tension, so it's important to understand where the interaction is and which one needs to be done.

If there already IS tension... makeout isn't the right move, no need for it. Because it may actually disrupt and destroy the tension that's been built up.

But in certain situations, like the one last night, it is AMAZING and completely changes the entire interaction because it creates massive tension, shows massive interest and completely changes the entire dynamics of the interaction and leads to VERY congruent physical escalation and puts me in charge and allows for her to easily accept her role as sorta the submissive follower.

As I said in my last post, before i went out last night- a makeout is just a tool. Just like everything else, except head and sex... everything is just a tool to lead to one of those outcomes. Use them at the right times, but do not use them simply because you can. THAT'S the difference between someome who knows what they are doing and someone who is just getting lucky. The person who knows what he's doing, is able to recogniize that this shit is just a tool and then can begin to understand WHEN the time to use these tools are.
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Re: TonightX4-Great Night: Plenty of observations
@buddhagames:

Awesome report. I'm loving the fact that you are so unphased by these shittests and by rejection. Shit man. I'm definitely learning here, but there's a couple of things that if you could clarify I feel like I could definitely implement them the next time I'm out:

So then as I'm walking inside I see three girls talking with this dude sitting down and I go in and pull out one of them and I grab her hand and give her bomb eye contact and I'm just like, "Hey" and she starts laughing cause she's nervous nad is like, "Hey".. "What's your name"
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Do you mean you pulled her up from the seat by her hand and she just stood up? Haha I'm having trouble visualizing this. Approaching mixed sets is a sticking point I have.



her friends had come up and told her they were all leaving in like 10 minutes so she kept telling me, "okay I have to leave in 5" and kept giving me time updates... I think she may have wanted me to somehow take responsibility from her and get her to stay but I just didn't know how...
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Looking back on this do you have any thoughts on what you could have done to take the responsibility and make it okay for her to stay?


And these:

She tells me how they just come to this bar to make fun of the guys and I laugh and I'm like, "except me" and give her serious eye contact and then I'm like, "Because I'm awesome" and she can't help but nod...

I'm like, "give me digits" and she's like, "Okay I'll give you my business card" and I look at her with eye contact and I'm like, "NO... I want your phone number" and she gives it to me.
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When you say "serious" eye contact do you mean strong, with a smirk on your face that says "I'm cooler than you", or do you mean a serious face lol

same thing with the #, which is harder to describe I'm just trying to imagine the vibe, like playful or more serious with these?

Thanks buddha
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Re: TonightX4-Great Night: Plenty of observations
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Q: Do you mean you pulled her up from the seat by her hand and she just stood up? Haha I'm having trouble visualizing this. Approaching mixed sets is a sticking point I have.

Thanks so much for all these questions Alex. Seriously, dude. You’re questions are INCREDIBLE. It’s really obvious that you want to improve and that you’re getting a ton of value from these reports. On top of that, your questions are so good, and so purposeful that they are improving MY understanding of MY own game. So I appreciate it, I really do.

A: Anyway- so in this situation, it was the dude sitting down and then three girls like surrounding him and talking to him in that half circle formation. He was sorta seated in front of the one in the middle and the other two flank downwards a little. I was walking by the bar and just grabbed the hand of the one closest to me and then walked a bit further on so that we would be completely away from the dude… hope that clarifies that.

Q: Looking back on this do you have any thoughts on what you could have done to take the responsibility and make it okay for her to stay?

A: Okay, so this is a good one. I had totally forgot to put in my field report that her friends, at one point, had come donwstairs to make sure my girl was, “Okay” and to tell her that they were going to be leaving soon. After they left, I told my girl, “Hey, if you want you can just stay after they leave and I’ll send you home in a cab” to which she was like, “Yeah.. but no”… so then after that happened, I was hesitant to be persistent about it because I didn’t want to get sucked out of the buyer frame. I sorta just made a choice to go for the longterm fuck with this girl.
But to answer your question directly- No. I do not know what I could have done to have gotten her to stay, especially after she had already said no. The logistics were rough. But I would love to hear anyone else’s thoughts. Also- I’m taking manwhore training, so I’m sure this is something I can ask him over skype when we do that. But awesome question man, got me thinking.

Q: When you say "serious" eye contact do you mean strong, with a smirk on your face that says "I'm cooler than you", or do you mean a serious face lol

A: haha yeah, here I was giving strong eye contact, with a slight smile. Just a sense of amusement, because at this point, I KNEW like I TRULY KNEW that they couldn’t help but be attracted to me, so when she said that, I was amused and figured I would just point out the obvious. So yes, I had strong eye contact, with a slight smirk

Q: same thing with the #, which is harder to describe I'm just trying to imagine the vibe, like playful or more serious with these?
A: With this situation. I was VERY VERY fucking serious. I basically COMMANDED her, “NO” and then in a very firm, just like authoritative voice, but not yelling, just VERY firm. I said, “I want your number”- you know… like dude, I wasn’t fucking around. I wanted this girls number and I wasn’t going to take some bullshit business card.
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@buddhagames: This is great
@buddhagames:

This is great stuff dude. Don't really have anything to add. I can really appreciate your dedication to yourself.
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Re: TonightX4-Great Night:
@buddhagames:

Well for instance I kino alot when I'm out on night clubs. I usually open with something physical like stopping them when they are walking past with a slight touch, pulling them in, stuff like that to get them used to me touching them. Which makes it so much easier to sexually escalate imo. When you asked the girl to stay I would've personally gone about it a little more aggressively like: "Where do you think you're going?! *lift her up*.
When the friends come around to fetch the girl just go: "Forget it! She's mine now. Don't even try it."
And go for the kiss, build up a role play scenario with her in the few seconds you have before the friends come back.

It's hard to say over forum post. You can ask me stuff if you want over PM if Manwhore isn't available though.
Let me know man

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Re: TonightX4-Great Night:
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Oh okay cool man.

I would say, I am opening with a pretty good amount of directness/physicality... I mean most of the time, I'm grabbing these girls

Oh- and about asking the girl to stay... She didn't go anywhere.. It was more like, they were saying that they were leaving LATER... hmm maybe that's a good idea, with the whole, "Where do you think you're going?!" thing but at the same time, I'm a little weary of "Over Gaming"

I mean, with the way I handled it- the friends left for the rest of the night and didn't bother her again... at all... I actually led her back up to where her friends were and we chilled up there for a bit, which is where the friends just reminded her they were leaving.

But yeah, if the friends were going to try and take her away like IN THAT MOMENT, then yeah, I'd def. put up a fight... But I actually think I'm establishing myself as a cool enough guy and getting the girl invested enough that they dont WANT to leave and when a girl doesn't WANT to leave and go away with her friends, the friends tend to just leave you guys alone.

But about the whole kino thing- did you read all the little bits about how I was touching her? Like grabbing her hands and leading her down the stairs. Pulling her chair close to mine and putting my arm around her. Approaching her by grabbing her hand. Giving her a HUGE hug right after the approach...

That's a fair amount of physical escalation.. then on top of that- I went in for the makeout later.

Would you have done even more than that? I will say that my physical shit is all pretty low key, subtle type stuff... So yeah, maybe that should be changed.
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Re: TonightX4-Great Night:
@buddhagames:
If I feel that the girl really wants to be there with me but the friends are pulling her away then I put up the fight you know :), cause girls will leave with the friends even if they really like the guy sometimes. You don't need to worry about over-gaming if you're coming from a place of authenticity and true desire. It's just when you start doing stuff cause you read it in a book or if someone told you to, you need to start worrying. Unless you wanna go with the "fake it until you make it"- principle, which is also cool. But generally I'd not do something that you don't feel comfortable doing, but then again I truly believe that you cannot become comfortable with anything until you do it a few times, so you see my dilemma here :).

Honestly man I didn't remember you writing about the kino stuff. But yeah I like being noticable physical with girls when I'm out on night clubs. Not so much when day gaming (which is more or less all I do atm for various reasons). Lifting girls and stuff, spinning them etc.

And as I said, don't think you need to change anything tbh. Just saying what I would've done.
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Re: TonightX4-Great Night: Plenty of observations
@buddhagames:

I'm glad you appreciate my questions man. I'm working at a summercamp right now and get like zilch approach opportunity out here, so it's cool to be able to immerse myself in your reports and pretend like I'm there /understand as much as I can. I'm also glad you're making them so detailed.

It's cool that we can both learn from them.
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Re: TonightX4-Great Night:
@Wonder:

Cool man. Yeah, read it again, you'll notice I have quite a bit of physicality in there.

But thanks for the advice... always appreciated.

i just think, with regards to her leaving with her friends... it was going to take more than something in that moment... like I needed to develop something stronger over the course of the entire interaction.. cause like I said, she didn't leave with her friends at the bar... it was just like at the very end, when all of them left, she left with them becuase she was crashing at their place...

So basically, I somehow needed to solve the issue of where she would sleep if it wasn't at her friends place by offering her my place... but in a way that she was cool with. Which is why I just wanted to take baby steps and get her to stay after her friends left

because I figured if she stayed after her friends left, I could just be like, "Look a cab is gonna be expensive, why don't you just crash on the couch at my place"

And it woulda been game over.
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Re: TonightX4-Great Night:
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But yeah, idk, right now my game is VERY like hands-off... like idk, if someone were to watch me in-field, they probably wouldn't even know I was actually "gaming" the girl.

I sorta just do a lot of like, standing there... occasionally saying something.

For me, right now, it's literally just ENTIRELY in my eyes and my body language. Like from what I can tell, if you were watching, most of my sets would just kinda look like the girl was just really into me from the beginning and wanting to talk to me cause like they are always like hardcore leaning into talk to me and like it's usually THEM that's doing most of the talking...

I just sorta lay back, chill and let shit go down and then at KEY moments, make a move. Like the makeout and other stuff.

I think I could probably take a more proactive part in it though... but that's what training is for : )
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