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Alright gents, buckle up and resist the urge to hit.  I've recently gotten back into online dating and have been hitting numbers and dates up like fucking crazy!  had one interaction in particular that has been screwing with me and need some pointers (or a lot).



Background:  Met this girl on an app, we hit it off pretty well, she was actually on vacation for a week and spet the whole damn time texting me (pretty much throught the day.) so I obviously did well to keep the interaction going.  We had a nice sarcastic and slightly sexual vibe going.



Eventually she gets back stateside and we set up a date at her house.  Go to her house, we eat some takeout, flirt, play some jenga, blah blah blah.  So we're pretty much throwing out these innuendos the whole evening, which apparently I missed because she'd actually tell me (e.g. make a joke about getting hard, she'd make a joke about how I didn't quite catch on.)  Lean in to kiss her and she just sort of pulls away, which is wierd because I feel like I'm calibrated to her.  We do a couple more games of Jenga and she hands me my keys to leave. I thought she was giving me signals, but idk how to read it if she's not engaging back.



Fastforward to the next day.  Texting has become VERY sparse, almost a little hostile:



Me: I still won (referring to the stupid jenga games we played).  BTW I made it home.



Next Day

Her: That took a while.

Me:  You must have been worried sick.

Her:  So sick I went to bed.

Me:  (it's nice of you to worry about me like that... kind of how I get worried if I overheated my pizza.

Me:  So, last day of freedom... any big plans? (she's back to work, full time surgical resident).



Next day

Me:  Hey! Thought about the othger night and wondered when we would get together again.  Let me know when you're available and I'll grab the takeout (yes, I know.. I cringe even reareading this).

Her:  yesterday I had education luecture from 7-12pm.  With some online training after.  It was lovely.  Then I went back to work today.  It was not the worst.

Me:  Biden meme to make you feel better? (we had this whole obama/biden joke running).

Her:  You didn't send a Biden meme

Me:  (insert biden meme pic)

Me:  pretty hectic day?



That's where it left off.  Any comments, thoughts?


 

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Naw man she thinks you're a

Naw man she thinks you're a goober. You need to get with the times you're way behind

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Can anyone else step in here

Can anyone else step in here and help this poor guy out. :\ 

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Manwhore wrote: Can anyone

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Can anyone else step in here and help this poor guy out. :\ 

Yep. I'm on it. 

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No pun intended, but good

No pun intended, but good game. 

She was basically throwing herself at you and you basically whiffed it, bro. 

She got fed up of throwing hints at you and you simply not picking up on them. Essentially, she's like, this guy doesn't get it. To make things worse your texts were very tame/lame. You're not inspiring her to want to get fucked. 

You gave up on one kiss? Not to mention you were slow to kiss her/you didn't come in strong with the kiss. 

She came to the date probably hot and bothered and then you just didn't deliver mang. Long story short, she was disappointed =/ 

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still working on it

yeah it's wierd, usually never get stumped like that.  Of course 99% I'm usually doing a LOT more work on my end so maybe I just wan't used to things going well in my direction.

My texting before this meet up was actually pretty solid, just had to get an opinion on all this.  Thanks for the honest outlook all!  

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still working on it

yeah it's wierd, usually never get stumped like that.  Of course 99% I'm usually doing a LOT more work on my end so maybe I just wan't used to things going well in my direction.

My texting before this meet up was actually pretty solid, just had to get an opinion on all this.  Thanks for the honest outlook all!  

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still working on it

yeah it's wierd, usually never get stumped like that.  Of course 99% I'm usually doing a LOT more work on my end so maybe I just wan't used to things going well in my direction.

My texting before this meet up was actually pretty solid, just had to get an opinion on all this.  Thanks for the honest outlook all!  

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What did you do before the

What did you do before the kiss?

Were you touching her already? What kind of physical escalation was involved?

You should be touching her every chance you get. Why didn't you just throw the jenga on her, or touch her while she moves her piece so she loses? Physicality seems so simple in this scenario.

Seems to me like it might have appeared uncalibrated and awkward, as if you were trying to follow some script rather than act on your natural impulses. Girls can feel that and it makes their vag as dry as sandpaper. 

Edit: Also the assumptions you're making in the texts about her being worried are try hard and cringy.

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BobbyBilfiger wrote: What did

BobbyBilfiger wrote:
What did you do before the kiss?

Were you touching her already? What kind of physical escalation was involved?

You should be touching her every chance you get. Why didn't you just throw the jenga on her, or touch her while she moves her piece so she loses? Physicality seems so simple in this scenario.

Seems to me like it might have appeared uncalibrated and awkward, as if you were trying to follow some script rather than act on your natural impulses. Girls can feel that and it makes their vag as dry as sandpaper. 

Edit: Also the assumptions you're making in the texts about her being worried are try hard and cringy.

From a macro level, he was uncalibrated in the sense that he thought he was 4th and long when he was 4th and goal. This girl was ready to get fucked. I imagine he was slightly nervous / awkward because he was so SLOW / hesitant on his escalation. 

I’m sure the texting was fine leading up to it because she was ready to go, but he whiffed when they were passing the baton. 

Now he actually is 4th and long, because the girl is clearly annoyed/uninspired/ at his ability to be a man. He’s playing catch up and not texting her from that mindset. Those lackluster texts are not jolting things back on track. He’s falling flat there. He could get away with them before because he had built good momentum, she was excited etc. You have to be able to read the emotions. 

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Aequitas

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BobbyBilfiger wrote:
What did you do before the kiss?

Were you touching her already? What kind of physical escalation was involved?

You should be touching her every chance you get. Why didn't you just throw the jenga on her, or touch her while she moves her piece so she loses? Physicality seems so simple in this scenario.

Seems to me like it might have appeared uncalibrated and awkward, as if you were trying to follow some script rather than act on your natural impulses. Girls can feel that and it makes their vag as dry as sandpaper. 

Edit: Also the assumptions you're making in the texts about her being worried are try hard and cringy.

From a macro level, he was uncalibrated in the sense that he thought he was 4th and long when he was 4th and goal. This girl was ready to get fucked. I imagine he was slightly nervous / awkward because he was so SLOW / hesitant on his escalation. 

I’m sure the texting was fine leading up to it because she was ready to go, but he whiffed when they were passing the baton. 

Now he actually is 4th and long, because the girl is clearly annoyed/uninspired/ at his ability to be a man. He’s playing catch up and not texting her from that mindset. Those lackluster texts are not jolting things back on track. He’s falling flat there. He could get away with them before because he had built good momentum, she was excited etc. You have to be able to read the emotions. 

Are those football references? I'm so confused by the 4th stuff lol. 

You're saying he thought he had a long way to go but actually didn't? That makes sense. 

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BobbyBilfiger

BobbyBilfiger wrote:
Aequitas wrote:
BobbyBilfiger wrote:
What did you do before the kiss?

Were you touching her already? What kind of physical escalation was involved?

You should be touching her every chance you get. Why didn't you just throw the jenga on her, or touch her while she moves her piece so she loses? Physicality seems so simple in this scenario.

Seems to me like it might have appeared uncalibrated and awkward, as if you were trying to follow some script rather than act on your natural impulses. Girls can feel that and it makes their vag as dry as sandpaper. 

Edit: Also the assumptions you're making in the texts about her being worried are try hard and cringy.

From a macro level, he was uncalibrated in the sense that he thought he was 4th and long when he was 4th and goal. This girl was ready to get fucked. I imagine he was slightly nervous / awkward because he was so SLOW / hesitant on his escalation. 

I’m sure the texting was fine leading up to it because she was ready to go, but he whiffed when they were passing the baton. 

Now he actually is 4th and long, because the girl is clearly annoyed/uninspired/ at his ability to be a man. He’s playing catch up and not texting her from that mindset. Those lackluster texts are not jolting things back on track. He’s falling flat there. He could get away with them before because he had built good momentum, she was excited etc. You have to be able to read the emotions. 

Are those football references? I'm so confused by the 4th stuff lol. 

You're saying he thought he had a long way to go but actually didn't? That makes sense. 

exactly lol. He was basically at the finish line, more or less 

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So is there a way to recover

So is there a way to recover from that, or just move on.

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Thanks Aequitas dass it mang 

Thanks Aequitas dass it mang 

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GG1946 wrote: So is there a

GG1946 wrote:
So is there a way to recover from that, or just move on.

I mean we could write you some doozy texts, get her all excited with false expectations, she shows up again.. you whiff it (again) 'cuz she wants to lick the rapper but you're only 12

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GG1946 wrote:So is there a

GG1946 wrote:
So is there a way to recover from that, or just move on.

We don’t really see a point because we suspect you’re gonna whiff it again in person. :/

Assuming you could get her out again - how and why would you succeed this time around? What would you do differently? Be very specific. 

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In the chance that we do go

In the chance that we do go out again...  I would accept the reality that we're out because we both want something to happen.  There was some good sexual tension going on I'd let that sie show a LOT more, fuck niceities, I need my animalistic and dominant side to show.  It's funny because looking back, it wasn't that I missed her signals, more that I just didn't man up and actually go for it when I had some mental resistance.  There really wasn't anything that made me cautious or wary pre-meet up, so when it all came down to it I just wasn't prepared for her to be as forward as she was (usually I'm doing 90% of the work to get things going).  So in this case I would trust my instincts much more, throw a lot of doubt away since she (or she was) obviously into it.  that would be my mental prep.

If another date does happy, I assume she'd be down with having at her place again.  Although my text game will have to really boost since she's obviously not having any of it now that she's thinks I whiffed it (we can get to texting later).  have a feeling it's most likely going to be some sort of game/food night last last time.  I'd be doing a LOT more touching, really doing more push into the interaction.  I can definitely envision where I can/will keep the attraction going without just resorting back to some stupid conversation we had going on.  I'd be doing some more natual approach where I'd be showing more alpha intent, physically taking control of where I want things to lead.  Also considering we didn't have the closest proximity made things a awkward, my physicality would obivouly improve just by actually getting in close and letting her know I'm in to her.

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Based on what you know of

Based on what you know of her, how do you think you would fuck her? 

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Once I set the tone on the

Once I set the tone on the interaction, I'd take control.  I don't know if she'd bring up anything previously, which I really don't care if she would.  It's mot about me finally making a fucking move.  I'd be somewhat playful, close contact, intimate spacing, probably throw around some playful werstling to ge things going, go in for the make-out, work it along her neck if there's resistance.. the rest would be history from there.

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That's a decent plan. For a

That's a decent plan. For a kindergartener

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Manwhore wrote: GG1946

Manwhore wrote:
GG1946 wrote:
So is there a way to recover from that, or just move on.

I mean we could write you some doozy texts, get her all excited with false expectations, she shows up again.. you whiff it (again) 'cuz she wants to lick the rapper but you're only 12

Ya and we’ve done this a plenty for Aequitas ;) 

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