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Aequitas and I have been beasting Vegas for a minute and it's time we put some of our high jinks on the forum to help us deconstruct our shit. "In the mix" refers to being within striking distance of a warm and ready pussy.

I'm writing on like 2 hours of sleep from last night's shenanigans, but that's the fuckin life.

Friday:

On Friday night we roll out to the strip to run some lobby game (I'm only 20 so until I turn 21 in a few weeks we have limited options lol). We purchase a couple JD nips at Caesar's Palace to get the juices flowing, then walk down the strip making chitchat with random chicks.

End up at the Wynn and Aequitas rolls up on two blonde Canadian chicks - "Yo I like your dress." (It was a basic black dress.)

Their faces light up like candles and I roll in as well. We drag them over to a bar and separate our respective girls, escalating a little bit but no major moves yet. Then we take them to another fucking bar and then take them to CVS at Treasure Island to pick up some food/drinks before pulling, taking waaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy too long to pull the trigger. At that point the girls see that the pull is imminent and they actually ditch us in the TI lobby.

We run into them again at Caesar's Palace and we take them to grab food, building the set back up, before one of them starts bitching about how her stomach hurts and she feels like she is going to throw up. Could have kept it going but we just leave them.

Back at the lobby, we hit up some cute Irish chicks in the lobby and run some tight verbal game on them for a good 15 mins but we're outnumbered and it goes nowhere. It's 4:30 at that point and I leave because I have to work in the morning.

Saturday:

We pick up a 200ml flask of Fireball and take a couple shots of that shit. The night is young and the smell of girls ready to get banged is in the air.

We hit up the Wynn again but there aren't any available girls around so we just chill and shoot the shit until about 1 AM, then it's time for Caesar's Palace to catch the crowd coming out of Omnia.

We get there and I open a couple chicks just to warm up. One of them is cute but the other is busted. We're just chatting with a lack of sexual energy and they leave after a couple minutes.

It's time to turn up the dial.

A few more rejections later, I see a couple of cute hispanic girls and I engage - "Yo, you guys are fucking cute."

Some dude (their brother apparently, they're sisters) immediately steps in but he clearly has no authority with his sisters because I just ignore him, and therefore they also ignore him. I'm telling them how sick it is that they're from Tucson (don't really care). Aequitas and I take them to a lobby bar at Caesar's where I sit by my girl who looks like a tatted up Mexican goth and he sits by his girl who has braces. We pass around the flask of Fireball until my girl kills it.

Me: "Yo are y'all hungry?"

Girls: "Yeaaahhhhhhh!!!"

That's all the permission we need to pull. No fucking around tonight like last night. We get the Uber to Aequitas' place.

Aequitas is out of booze so I pour everyone drinks from a bottle of pure margarita mix (no alcohol) and tell the girls it's an alcoholic drink. So we're all just drinking pure juice at Aequitas' place which I think is hilarious. We don't even mention food because we're here to FUCK not eat.

Aequitas takes his girl to his balcony. I vibe with my Mexican gothic chick on the couch and make out with her. Then Aequitas comes back and we're all going to the jacuzzi (I should have just hung back with my girl but whatever). We go down to the pool and annoy a security guy to get in.

Early morning jacuzzi times. We're both making out with our girls and my girl. Gothic Mexican says she wants to get her nipples pierced and I challenge her that her nipples probably aren't long enough because she has small tits. She shows me one of her nipples - it's definitely long and firm but I tell her it's too small. She calls her sister over to look at her nipple, and then it becomes a sister-on-sister nipple inspection.

Enough bullshitting in the jacuzzi. We go back up to Aequitas' apartment - he takes his girl into his room like a boss and I sit on the couch with mine. After a little making out it's finally BANG TIME, then I sleep on the couch and get very little sleep and watch the Serbia vs Costa Rica game at 5 AM. This girl shows me her IG and apparently she's a camgirl. She has a lithe sexy body, an alright face, and I mostly banged her from behind so she would stop fucking biting me.

Aequitas' girl (the younger sister) was actually a VIRGIN and apparently he wasn't able to convert ultimately even though his persistence was legendary, he might have more to say on that

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Hell yeah. Some things to

Hell yeah. 

Some things to add:

Friday:

Canadian Girls 

I actually rolled up beside the Canadian's as they were outside the club and I said "Yo why're you removing that X from your hand? lol" [ She's licking her fingers then rubbing off the X. ] Set blew open pretty effortlessly.

"Oh we're trying to figure out whether or not we're going to go into XS. We don't want pay $100 to get in!" 

We're all walking. "Alright well, let's grab some drinks in the mean time." Hang with them, move them etc. 

Also, it's important to note that we ran into them outside Caesar's and how cold they were. To the outsider's perspective, you'd assume these girls wanted nothing to do with us. We turned that shit around with persistence and beaming awesomness. Then the girls sat with us, and ya, unfortunately one of the girls said she didn't feel well and said she felt like puking. 

Improvements: We did not escalate quickly, ruthlessly and were not persistent enough with these girls. We hesitated too much by taking too long and not escalating like we both know how to. I feel like the heavy lifting was done by turning that set around, we should've just walked them to their room lol. That was our bad. 

Irish Girls

Roll up on this group of irish girls. "Yo I like your dress." Immediately start talking to the rest of the group, Kunis is in the mix with a blonde chick. I'm talking to 3 of the girls and at this point the girls mentioned "We like you guys! You guys are totally not weird lol." Maybe 2 min later, I was like alright lets go grab a drink, they're down. The girls who are left out hesitate half way there and no longer want to go get drinks. My girl hesitates and reluctantly acquiesces to the group. I didn't step up properly here. I get the impression that we zero'd in on our respective girls preatmurely. The other girls probably felt left out? 

Improvements: I am fucking positive that if we didn't just let them walk away and beamed awesomeness at the entire group, we could have convinced them to come to the bar. Then, could've built more momentum, held court with all the girl's, then even procliamed that our girl's are staying with us lol. There's a lot more we could've done here instead of just settling for some number from the irish girl. Girls don't just seduce themselves, we gotta make it happen.

Saturday:  

Ya that was a quick pull too. We pulled within like 20-25 min lol. We gotta stock our respective places up with booze that way we're ready to go. I didn't think she'd invite your girl along lol. I thought we'd isolate n escalate. At the jacuzzi it's important to note that we built on the previous night and corrected our physical escalation. Moved my girl's body to my will, so to speak. It was noticable how turned on she was getting just from the type of escalation that was occuring. But yea, once we got back after the jacuzzi I just pulled her into me next to the door of my room, made out with her, then without saying anything I just grabbed her hand and led her to my bed. Ton of LMR at the room. I realized we didn't really know each other, which explained a good chunk of it, so we sat back, hung out and just got to know each other and have fun. That helped progress things and I ended up cumming on her tits. A shame I didn't close but I really do think there's a good chance she really was a virign. 

NOTE: We're definitely becoming more clinical about pushing for the close. We're not formulaic but definitely being more mindful of where we're at with the set. 

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Love this shit. How long you

Love this shit. How long you both in Vegas for? 

"Irish Girls

Roll up on this group of irish girls. "Yo I like your dress." Immediately start talking to the rest of the group, Kunis is in the mix with a blonde chick. I'm talking to 3 of the girls and at this point the girls mentioned "We like you guys! You guys are totally not weird lol." Maybe 2 min later, I was like alright lets go grab a drink, they're down. The girls who are left out hesitate half way there and no longer want to go get drinks. My girl hesitates and reluctantly acquiesces to the group. I didn't step up properly here. I get the impression that we zero'd in on our respective girls preatmurely. The other girls probably felt left out?"

Aight so yeah you nailed this one in your summary. You guys are like super in the zone and I know from personal experience that when you're in that place sometimes you get so zoned in on your targets and end goal that some of the more "normal" shit gets forgotten.

So just take a step back and think about normal dynamics and how this plays out. Sales is the same way. Building up a champion or hooking the chick you want is just one part of the game. There's always gonna be snipers in the rafters though so just identify that element and cut it off at the pass. 

Easiest way to do this is to make those snipers feel SUPER included and address their concerns. Of course they're gonna feel left out and wanna bail. Hey are in VEGAS dude and don't wanna waste a night having their friends focused on a buncha dudes while they're just sitting there. So that's the objection here. 

So like you either gotta pull hard and fast and not give the snipers a good shot to take you out or if you're gonna do the "fun drinking and party" approach then you gotta include everyone and make it a party where banging your chick is sorta just the end result of a fun time regardless. 

 

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In sales it's the exact same

In sales it's the exact same shit. You always have a sniper with objections.

Most reps ignore this person and focus on their champion and hope that the sniper will just go away or be overpowered by their champion. This doesn't work.

instead, I address the sniper head-on. I'll get their number from my champion and tell my champion "Hey I'm giving so and so a call- just want to address any concerns they may have" and then I'll do a side deal where I'm basically selling the sniper on why this whole thing will help them. 

You ou can do a very similar approach in game. Just don't ignore unless you're just pulling immediately or it's late and everyone's going back to their room regardless. But if it's earlyish in the night then have to be aware.

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Buddhagames wrote:Love this

Buddhagames wrote:
Love this shit. How long you both in Vegas for? 

"Irish Girls

Roll up on this group of irish girls. "Yo I like your dress." Immediately start talking to the rest of the group, Kunis is in the mix with a blonde chick. I'm talking to 3 of the girls and at this point the girls mentioned "We like you guys! You guys are totally not weird lol." Maybe 2 min later, I was like alright lets go grab a drink, they're down. The girls who are left out hesitate half way there and no longer want to go get drinks. My girl hesitates and reluctantly acquiesces to the group. I didn't step up properly here. I get the impression that we zero'd in on our respective girls preatmurely. The other girls probably felt left out?"

Aight so yeah you nailed this one in your summary. You guys are like super in the zone and I know from personal experience that when you're in that place sometimes you get so zoned in on your targets and end goal that some of the more "normal" shit gets forgotten.

So just take a step back and think about normal dynamics and how this plays out. Sales is the same way. Building up a champion or hooking the chick you want is just one part of the game. There's always gonna be snipers in the rafters though so just identify that element and cut it off at the pass. 

Easiest way to do this is to make those snipers feel SUPER included and address their concerns. Of course they're gonna feel left out and wanna bail. Hey are in VEGAS dude and don't wanna waste a night having their friends focused on a buncha dudes while they're just sitting there. So that's the objection here. 

So like you either gotta pull hard and fast and not give the snipers a good shot to take you out or if you're gonna do the "fun drinking and party" approach then you gotta include everyone and make it a party where banging your chick is sorta just the end result of a fun time regardless. 

 

We both moved out to LV around the same time. Around Aug/September. Been hitting it hard since. Dude that makes perfect sense. MW even mentions this in an LR where he sorta just snipes a chick at the Cosmopolitan. I've never sniped chicks like this, I usually go the fun party route. I need to lean into this approach more since I don't do it really. Man, and the worst part, is you could visibly see how let down my girl was that I didn't step up. The reluctance she had to leave, the look, etc.  

But that social dynamic makes total sense. Why the fuck would a girl spend all that money and spend her LIMITED TIME in vegas, ruin her sleep schedule, etc., only for HER FRIEND TO GET LAID

Party route is like you said, make them feel super included, bring the fun, experience the moment with them all, actually get to know the friends and stuff too, then after a while kinda pull the sniper to the side and just candidly tell her that I like her friend and am going to keep hanging out with her. Here's my number in case her phone is dead, etc. Text me rn so I have your number. I'm not sure if I got that exactly right but I've done some variation of that before. How else would you handle the objections? 

Btw Kunis and I are going to do a 30 day challenge in July. I've never done one. I always pussied out. Every night, at the night club or if it's the weekend a pool party. Definitely using some of my vacation for this as well so I don't burn out haha. Going to have to do it sober during the week.  

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Yeah I think the objection is

Yeah I think the objection is handled as long as you're actually including them and not making it clear they don't have a chance. 

You could also find a guy for the chick who feels left out.

for the challenge- I'm by no means an anti drinking guy but I think there's some merit to doing the challenge sober. Mainly because drinking every night gets old really fast. I think that's the main benefit of being sober is that if you're truly going out all the time then drinking that same amount can be brutal on the system.

Also, if you're doing a challenge you'll find that after 2-4 days or so if you're going hard you'll be better sober than you ever were drunk. It sounds like bullshit but I swear it's legit. 

If youre just going going out on weekends then I fully support drinking to jumpstart things since there's the inevitable rust 

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Buddhagames wrote: Yeah I

Buddhagames wrote:
Yeah I think the objection is handled as long as you're actually including them and not making it clear they don't have a chance. 

You could also find a guy for the chick who feels left out.

for the challenge- I'm by no means an anti drinking guy but I think there's some merit to doing the challenge sober. Mainly because drinking every night gets old really fast. I think that's the main benefit of being sober is that if you're truly going out all the time then drinking that same amount can be brutal on the system.

Also, if you're doing a challenge you'll find that after 2-4 days or so if you're going hard you'll be better sober than you ever were drunk. It sounds like bullshit but I swear it's legit. 

If youre just going going out on weekends then I fully support drinking to jumpstart things since there's the inevitable rust 

Hell yeah, that makes sense.

I did a sober challenge ... like once when I was 20 - 21. Part of my problem back in the day is I used to get so lit just to talk to chicks lol. I'm pretty reasonable about it now -- maybe 2 shots for a pregame and 1-2 drinks while out and about. Y'know if you told me that about 5-6 years ago I would definitely be stubborn and think being better sober was bullshit haha. But it makes sense. You have all your wits, you're fully in the moment, and all your faculties/your being is operating at 100% without being dulled by the alcohol. But yeah, I have to stay sober during the week so the sleep I do get is quality and my work product does not suffer. Plus, drinking for 30 days in a row just sounds fuckin' awful. I ain't no spring chicken anymore haha. 

Overall, I'm pretty fucking excited to do this 30 day challenge. Hopefully I can keep the drinking to a minimum on the weekends too so I can catch up on sleep then. How long did you go out during the week on your challenges? 

My plan right now: I work 9 am - 5 or 6 pm, go to the gym (on lift days), then sleep from 7 or 8 pm till 10 pm, do my drills and go out from 11 am - 2:30 am. If I don't pull, get my ass right to bed to get 6 hours of sleep. If I pull, I have see those pulls through (within reason, I'm not staying up till 6 am lol) 

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Oh I have sniped many women

Oh I have sniped many women from the Cosmopolitan lobby. Sometimes two at a time

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This is.. so bad. Are there

This is.. so bad. Are there any good parts? I'm sorta skimming through it. Kunis weren't you better than this awhile back? I kinda thought you were..

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Yeah :(I've been dead set on

Yeah :(

I've been dead set on making money for the last 6ish months, just starting to refocus on game again

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Yo biggest question ive had I

Yo biggest question ive had I forgot to ask.... are you guys really into chicks with braces? Like I know that's def something a lot of guys are into but for me it's like the biggest turnoff ever. Non starter. 

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Lol that girl came to

Lol that girl came to Vegas specifically to lose her virginity. Then ends up with Aequitas and is like, "Nah.. I'll wait." Ha! 

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Manwhore wrote:Lol that girl

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Lol that girl came to Vegas specifically to lose her virginity. Then ends up with Aequitas and is like, "Nah.. I'll wait." Ha! 

Shit.

That didn’t even cross my mind. :(

BG: Not a deal breaker for me. I had braces in mid and part of high school, so maybe I got a soft spot for chicks with braces lol.