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Text Convo with a model - How to close this? FR enclosed

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On Sat night, I was standing at the bar with my buddy when a group of three girls (X,Y,Z) walked and stood right next to us. The girl (Y) standing next to me in the group was kind of dancing and shaking her body. I looked towards her, took her hands and started off with a little swing dancing. I pulled her away from the friends and started escalating. Meanwhile, the other two girls in the group moved to the dance floor and started dancing. I noticed that girl (Z) is the hottest. So I told girl (Y) that lets join your friends at dance floor.

Once we were on the dance floor, I signaled my buddy to take girl (Y) from me. I took girl (X) by hands and started dancing with her. At this point, the hottest one was dancing alone and looking at us. I gave the girl (X) to some random guy on dance floor and grabbed girl (Z) by the hands and started dancing. Game on with girl (Z)! I could tell that she was not a good dancer and neither am I. But I was spinning her and doing all kind of stupid shit (pumping BT). I started grinding, pulling her hair and blowing air on neck etc. I went in for kiss but she turned her face away.

It was almost closing time so lights came on. She was like thank you for dancing with me. I said, “you seem pretty adventurous and fun person. I am just worried that you could be a really crazy chick.” She replied that she is a little bit crazy. I replied with a smile, “as long as that craziness is in bed, I’m ok with that.” She started laughing. I said that we should hang out sometime. She said, “Sure, take my number.” I replied, “I don’t want ur number. I want you.” She told me that I am really confident. I smiled and asked her what she does for living? She said that she is a model for a famous magazine and hair-stylist. I was like, wow, I have been looking for a hair-stylist for my shaggy hair (I am bald and shave my head like manwhore lol).

I can see that vibe between us was amazing and I’m thinking to pull her. So I asked her what are they upto? She and her friend told me that they are just going back home. So I asked my girl about her schedule? She told me she is usually busy six days and have tight schedule because of two jobs. I made fun of her being more busy than Obama and said that don’t worry, you can stalk me on seventh day of the week. We exchanged numbers.

Meanwhile the bouncer asked us to leave the dance floor. I grabbed my girl’s arm and moved her to the door. I pinned her against the wall and give the deep stare in eyes and went for make out again. Still no go. She asked me about my birth sign and I told her it’s Taurus. She is like good because she is cancer. She said we are so compatible, on paper. I replied, you know, if it doesn’t work out, you will always be coming back for make-up sex. You can keep the kids and I will keep the dog. She tightly hugged me and said, “you are so adorable”

At this time, her friend (Y) showed up and told her that she could not find the third girl (X). I told girl (Y) to call the third girl. She did that and we met the third girl outside the club. Later, I regretted that I helped them find the third girl because she wanted to go home and wouldn’t let me pull my girl (Z). Anyways, I told her that I would text her and left them.
Shortly after leaving them, I started texting her.  All happened on late sat night. Here is the convo:

Me (2:13 AM) = Get home safe. jj_sac
Her (2:14 AM) = Thank you friend ! Thanks for the dance !
Me (2:28 AM) = I'll be the most inappropriate friend you will ever have ! Kiss you everywhere but the lips :P
Her (2:53 AM) = Sly and clever I like it
Me ( 3:12 AM) = Ha u noticed. This omelet is orgasmically delicious...
Her (3:32 AM) = I like that confidence

At this time, i was dropping off my last buddy. So i thought that i should call her and meet her up to close.

Me (3:41 AM) = This sexy ass confidence is going to call you in 10 mins
Her (3:43 AM) = I wont be able to answer
Her (3:44 AM) = Call me tomorrow I'm curious about your creative mind

It was pretty late in night so I didnt reply her. Next day on Sunday, I called her phone in the evening. She did not pick it up and it went to voice mail. So i recorded the following message, " This is jj_sac. Just had something interesting to tell you. Talk to you later."

I was expecting that she will call back or atleast text me however I havent heard from her so far. Whats going on?
I can tell that she has been hit on by a lot of dudes and also she is a hired gun. I could see that during inetraction she was playing push pulls with me. Sometime she will give me solid indicators of interest and other time she will totally act neutral.

Manwhore/ Buddha, what do you guys suggest here? How should I handle it from here?
 
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Ok you should have worked

Ok you should have worked harder to pull her that night, that is for sure. You asked her what she was up to. That's a very weak position. Then she can say she's going home. You tell what you are going to do, you start out with the right premise, she gives objections then you can figure out how to get past them. See how your initial take here was one of weakness? This girl won't be as prone to invest because you didn't handle things right when you guys met. You should always text her a couple hours after leaving the vm. 

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Manwhore wrote:Ok you should

Manwhore wrote:
Ok you should have worked harder to pull her that night, that is for sure. You asked her what she was up to. That's a very weak position. Then she can say she's going home. You tell what you are going to do, you start out with the right premise, she gives objections then you can figure out how to get past them. See how your initial take here was one of weakness? This girl won't be as prone to invest because you didn't handle things right when you guys met. You should always text her a couple hours after leaving the vm. 

This is so key. It's what i've been doing lately and initially learned it from brent smith.

Tell the girl YOUR agenda, and let her work herself around it. It's clear and orchestrated towards her getting fucked.

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@manwhore....that is exactly

@manwhore....that is exactly what I will be doing in every interaction from now on. More dominant and stronger leading.

In this particular case, I see three options:

1- Call her up tomorrow (two day break since sunday)....if she doesnt pick it up send her text like " You never write, you never call. The kids are worried sick and the rent is due. What should i tell them?"

2- Cotinue the text convo based on her last comment about my creativity. Text like " Dont have high expectations. I always aim to unimpress people with my creativity"

3- Just totally start a new thread on texting by sending her a pure Value giving text.

Manwhore, what would you do here? To me it seems like,  I have to get her on phone to build some investment and then ask for day2.

@Gogo...who is brent smith mang?

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naw if she doesn't text back

naw if she doesn't text back send her this: "are you alive. if not then remember to put me in the will so i inherit all of your shit...including the puppies"

google him bro

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You can do the same thing

You can do the same thing over text. 

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@Manwhore: Would you suggest

@Manwhore: Would you suggest starting a totally new thread on texting with her? Or just keep the convo going from previous topic?

Also on phone, she can listen to my voice/emotions and getting her to invest solidly is simpler. On texting, do you have to ask questions and throw qualifiers to get her invested? I m confused by solid investment over text.

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Haven't you read a bunch of

Haven't you read a bunch of text threads on here? Yes texting topics are all over the place. Completely random topics thrown in, crazy funny shit discussed that barely relates to what was discussed prior. You're supposed to be having FUN during texting. How did you miss that memo

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So i thought of reviving this

So i thought of reviving this number and threw a bait at her today to see if she catches at it. Last time I talked to her was a month ago. Following convo happened.

Me ( 12:28 PM) = You never write, you never call and the kids are worried sick...

Her ( 12:28 PM) = Haha

Her ( 12:32 PM) = How are you?

Me ( 12:39 PM) = Working hard so we can have that house in the hills, white picket fence and 2.5 children....and u?

Her ( 12:57 PM) = Haha . It's my day off. Gardening and practicing my stripper tricks

Me ( 1:23 PM) = Sounds fun ! Our backyard can definitely use a feminine touch. How good are you at making sandwiches?

Her ( 1:28 PM) = Excellent

Me ( 1:34 PM) = My kind of girl !

Me ( 1:35 PM) = Whats your schedule this week? I'll be tired after repairs at our house. All you have to do is bring sandwiches

After this text, I got no reply. I am surprised by this. Manwhore, what's your feedback? How do you handle the situation where you ask out the girl to setup date and she goes silent on you?

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You keep doing the whole

You keep doing the whole "How's your schedule like this week?" and it keeps failing.. maybe try something new. 

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Maybe I'm just overthinking

Maybe I'm just overthinking shit but I would've challenged her/gave her a bit of shit on that one word "Excellent" versus rewarding her and going for the meet up right away. It just seemed predictable and contrived to go for a meet up right after that which imo, paints you in a chodey light. Hindsight 20/20 tho. So much easier to see shit after it's gone down lol

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^ He's right. It was too

^ He's right. It was too "obvious" 

I used to know this guy that as soon as I'd answer one of his texts he would call me. In his mind he figured since I'd just responded to a text he had the best chance of getting me on the phone. In my mind he was just being as annoying as he could possibly figure out how. 

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i was gonna say the exact

i was gonna say the exact thing Aquitas but manwhore's been coming down harsh on me lately for being too nitpicky with other guys's texts. Lol

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omg i hate guys who wanna

omg i hate guys who wanna bromance you.

i had one guy like that 2 months back who blew up my phone non-stop. it was scary cause he's built like a tank

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Lol true haha. 'Cuz you're

Lol true haha. 'Cuz you're bein' a dick!

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Thanks for giving the

Thanks for giving the feedback guys.

@Manwhore

I use that line because I think it puts less pressure on the girl and she can tell you when she is available. Has worked for me on other girls. In this particular case, I think I messed up while I was in set with her. comments?

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Also as far as "obvious"

Also as far as "obvious" goes, isnt that the purpose of getting the phone number? It should be "obvious" to her that I am getting this number because I want to see her again and close the deal. Not that I am getting the number to be a gay friend :P

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No we mean she gained your

No we mean she gained your approval too early.

do you think if P diddy asked some bish if she can make a sammich, and she said "yeah" he would hire her on the spot? no, he would make her jump hoops, do the splits and then hire her ass. point being, just be a little more challenging

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After she said "excellent"

After she said "excellent" and you did the "My kind of girl !" which is pretty decent, I would have gone with something like, "I like those little triangle ones. Dainty little morsels. Be sure to buy the good mayo" or something along those lines.. a bit late now but see if you can reengage in a few days. 

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Damn I just did the

Damn I just did the 'rewarding too early' part of this earlier today.