Reproduction is a privilege, a competition, not a right. Got to step up to the plate and hit the fucking ball

I couldn't agree more with this. I been giving my head some rigorous shakes all week trying to snap out of my little fucking daze.

especially on lack of education, i like to feel it's guys who need proper social training, education in their teens, formative years on how to interact with girls and attract them, talk to them, guys only, because this was a good response i got from somewhere:

"Also girls have it easier when learning to interact with the opposite sex because guys approach girls. It's the masculine role to initiate. So girls learn fairly young the basics even if they do nothing."

I agree with the last part especially.

Yes but instead the vast majority form instinctual parasympathetic responses to women and social situations. 

Girls definitely approach guys though. You're seeing the timeline a bit wrong

seriously they do? well even if they do, it has to be hardcore rare, although some will say it might be more common in this generation for girls to approach guys, but still, i never hold my breath for it.

nah homie, it's not as rare as you think. I think men/chodes are just oblivious to ALOT of things.

​Dude, before I took training I literally had a girl take me by the hand and walk me into a bedroom at a party...lost my V-card only after training. 

​I look back at it now and like...she wanted to fuck me plain and simple, but back then that shit was buried in emotional rationalization because I didn't have the knowledge/skill/reference experience to take it the hole.

​Open your eyes homes, girls want your dick way more than you want theirs ;P

There's something else y'all aren't seeing. Think about the timeline of biology, male/female development. 

damn, why, so she made the moves for sex, initiated the sexual encounter? seriously? i thought women were hard-wired to not take the lead in a sexual setting even if they badly want a guy.

damn, why, so she made the moves for sex, initiated the sexual encounter? seriously? i thought women were hard-wired to not take the lead in a sexual setting even if they badly want a guy.

^ you don't go outside much, do you

Lmao!!!! You just pissed off Lez Luthor hahaha

That was classic. 

Naw you gotta go back way earlier than "sexual prime" to understand the true male/female dynamics going on here. 

Go back to childhood. What are all the little "societal" quips 'n such associated with the relationship between young boys 'n girls growing up? Think about it. 

dude...I'm at a loss here. 

​All I remember was that before I got socially conditioned AF...I was running around the playground pinching girl's butts.

"Yes but instead the vast majority form instinctual parasympathetic responses to women and social situations."

​Pretty sure I'm on the right train of thought. We become socially conditioned and lose the freedom we had as children. So growing up in society we develop an incorrect interpretation of our emotional responses to women..i.e. approach anxiety. 

​When I was a kid I had no qualms about pinching girl's butts or smooching them

Yes and/but what were girls doing

Talking to eachother, observing boys, building social intuition... while boys were playing? For example a girl walking up to a boy just to tell him she doesn't like him, yet she did the act of walking up to him?

"Girls have cooties", "No girls allowed", etc. Girls approach boys all the time as kids. And they get punished for it over and over again by the meanness of little kids. So they learn to do the same thing, and repeat the cycle when boys start hitting puberty. It's women that approach first in the biological timeline. 

Also games n songs that ridicule a boy and a girl from getting acquainted and comfortable with this real early on.

Niv n Jihad sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G

Girls end up resorting to covert signals to cue guys to make the first move, i.e: love letters, word play, gossip, glances from afar, group projects etc.

Guys, well, most guys still end up scared little boys lol.

​well it's just not something i would think Manhore would admit or others, anyway, ya i like to feel there was a time in history in which us guys, men, didn't need to seek out help from a dating coach or pick-up artist on how to meet and talk to women, attract them, if "game" was ever natural and common sense in past history, like if knowing how to get a girlfriend was natural, instinctive common sense. Ya but still, most women still expect guys to make the first move, ask out first, and initiate the relationship, they are very stubborn about it too.

^ That's all just regular chode programming. Nothing new 

sounds like you're romanticizing different times as if those times were better lol.  

​you recommend any specific books or documentaries that go deep into specific detail over the chode programming? because i'm guessing it would be too much for you to explain all of it, another thing, i'm only asking this because i'm curious as to how it works when you look at it from the other perspective, look at it from the other persons shoes, even though i know i should focus on only what i have to do myself and not worry about others. I've wondered for a while myself, how does a girl need to learn how to get a date or get a boyfriend when she doesn't have to be the one making moves or initiate anything, because since the guy is the one approaching, asking her out, planning the date, escalating and progressing things, that is all "doing", and since the girl is being passive, it sounds like she learns by doing nothing, and i've always that the only way you learn is by "doing".

​what further made me more curious to wonder this was when i saw that youtube response i mentioned earlier that said: "It's the masculine role to initiate. So girls learn fairly young the basics even if they do nothing."

It's mostly my background as a military trainer as well as my degree in cognitive behavioral science, I don't think there are any "textbooks" out there on "chode programming" as the mainstream is still set on justifying and rationalizing "introversion" as a "normal" state of being. 

Not sure who this other dating coach is and not sure why you'd bring up a youtube response. 

You're making it very black n' white man. Do not be concerned about girls doing "nothing" that's not true to every circumstance. I had similar worries at one point annnnnndddd it is the least of your worries. Embrace that you are the "doer", you get to shape your own experience!

​ya apparently life, society, made it out to be that controling your own destiny is part of masculinity.

Yeah dude. You don't even have to think about it in terms of a masculinity though, it's about accepting that you have the power to make shit happen for yourself :)

well the only reason why i think about it in terms of masculinity is because apparently men have to be the cause for everything, people often say that women have no say in which guys approached her, she has to decide between the guys who go talk to her and most of the time it is not a guy she wants. If that was always the case, how would women end up in relationships, getting a boyfriend? Because if a woman gets a date or gets a boyfriend, it's obviously from a guy she wants because otherwise she would not have chose to get into a relationship with him in the first place.

​But ya overall, Manhore nails it in which it is a competition, a privelage, not a right, it makes sense because since we produced unlimited sperm while women have limited amoung of eggs, it makes sense that guys are the ones expected to step it up and it be a competition and earn the privelage, since women can afford to be more picky for what i said. It's just what mainly bothers me is when people say that us guys get to choose while girls get chosen, they make it sound like as if girls have no say at all or have no power or control at all during the process while us guys have all the power, which tends to anger and fill me with frustration.

yeah you're right it is very limiting to say that women have no power/control,  and anyone embracing that premise will find themselves with some low quality womenz.

just keep in mind that conciously relinqusihing your power is quite powerful itself too ;) Especially in relationships it's ok to let someone take you on an adventure.